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Old Jul 22, 2003 | 12:58 AM
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Default 86 Main cooling fan problem

My main fan had a brain fart yesterday. It was working fine when i left for an hours drive. Out of no where the temp starts climbing so i pull over. The main fan stopped working!! :mad It's sunny and about 95 outside so trying to cool it down is almost hopeless. AC doesn't start fan also.

I didn't get around to much diagnostic work on the fan problem yet because i was to busy removing the leaking power steering rack !! :mad ( leak sealer turned it into a gusher) :mad

After removing rack i remembered that jumping A and B at the Aldl will make the main fan come on. It did come on ( wish i remembered this yesterday) !!

This proves the relay works so is my problem the sensor under throttlebody ?
Or since AC didn't trigger it there could be other problems.

Thanks !!! :cheers:

Also i have a sensor top right of rad (I thought this was my main fan switch)


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Old Jul 22, 2003 | 09:31 AM
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TTT :eek: :D
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Old Jul 22, 2003 | 09:40 AM
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In my line of work, I have found that heat can sometimes do strange things to electrical relays. It is possible that when the relay cooled down, it started working again when you jumpered A and B. I would check all of your connections and then replace the relay. They are cheap($15. our money from Chev). The sensor you refer to is the low coolant sensor.
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Old Jul 22, 2003 | 09:45 AM
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Thanks Arbee !!
Another question
Should the main fain come on as soon as i turn on AC or does pressure have to build up before fan is kicked in ?
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Old Jul 22, 2003 | 09:52 AM
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My understanding is that the A/C kicks the fan in when pressure rises in the high line by a switch over by the evaporator box. This seems to be true as my fan cycles on and off and seems to remain on longer the hotter it is outside.
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Old Jul 22, 2003 | 10:08 AM
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My understanding is that the A/C kicks the fan in when pressure rises in the high line by a switch over by the evaporator box..
Ahh!! I remember reading somewhere here that you could trigger the fan there.
I'll have to check it out. Thanks again !! :cheers:
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Old Jul 22, 2003 | 10:15 AM
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Old Jul 22, 2003 | 07:48 PM
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Still looking for more insight !! :D
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Old Jul 22, 2003 | 09:45 PM
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The main fan is turned on by the ECM. If the coolant sensor (under the MAF) indicates 228 F , the ECM turns on the main fan and turns it off at 211 F. If the a/c pressure switch reaches 240 psi, it opens and ungrounds pin D11 on the ECM and the ECM turns on the main fan. The a/c switch closes at 190 psi or lower amd opens at 240 psi or higher.
If the coolant temp sensor is defective, you should have a stored code 15 (low temperature) and this will not turn on the fan even though your coolant temp is above 228 F.
No error code is provided for the a/c pressure switch, but if you unplug this switch with the ign on, the fan should turn on. If it does not turn on, you have a short to ground on the green/white wire on this switch or a faulty ECM.
The a/c pressure switch is the first switch on the tubing coming out of the evaporator box on the right side, firewall.


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Thanks jfb !!!
Your info is always top notch !!
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Old May 18, 2012 | 07:55 PM
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Am I understanding this right. On my 86 Corvette (it came with no owners manuel). The main coolant fan, turns on only after 228 F?
That seems pretty high. I pulled over at 211 F, thinking she was going to overheat.
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Old May 18, 2012 | 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Ed Augustine
On my 86 Corvette the main coolant fan, turns on only after 228 F?.
Perfectly normal

This thread is nearly nine YEARS old
READ
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/foru...s-or-more.html
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Originally Posted by rodj
This thread is nearly nine YEARS old
Holy Crap! IBTL!
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Originally Posted by JrRifleCoach
Holy Crap! IBTL!


Wow, for a second there, I thought I woke up in the wrong year.
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Old May 19, 2012 | 12:42 PM
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Holy Crap! The king of the Factory Service Manual actually posted this??? Oh to be young and naive again!
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Originally Posted by AGENT 86


Wow, for a second there, I thought I woke up in the wrong year.
ME too! Like you asked a question and didn't have the diagram already posted?
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Old May 20, 2012 | 03:18 AM
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Now THAT was funny. I was reading through the thread and I couldn't believe this was Agent 86 posting. It just didn't sound like the knowledgeable guy I'm used to seeing...

I guess he learned the same way I did -- plenty of problems and lots of investigation (a long and winding path) -- the infamous "school of hard knocks". ;-)
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Yeah that blew my mind as well. I was thinking the same thing. Dan's had his car for 10+ years and he hasnt figured this out yet???
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Originally Posted by Cliff Harris

I guess he learned the same way I did -- plenty of problems and lots of investigation (a long and winding path) -- the infamous "school of hard knocks". ;-)
This is my first computer controlled car, learned a lot over the last 10 years.
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