Ran into problem doing TB Bypass.. Help!
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Re: Ran into problem doing TB Bypass.. Help! (Trog)
Yeah, mine ended up costing $0..
I called ZIP today, and told the guy what I found, about the two lines being the same size, and he said "Oh yeah, some were ordered that way". ORDERED?? I really can't see someone standing in the Chevy dealership:
Salesman: Would you like any other options before we place the final order?
Buyer: Yes, I would like to have matching size coolant lines coming from my TB, just something I always wanted.
Salesaman: Well, we can do that for you!
:rolleyes:
I called ZIP today, and told the guy what I found, about the two lines being the same size, and he said "Oh yeah, some were ordered that way". ORDERED?? I really can't see someone standing in the Chevy dealership:
Salesman: Would you like any other options before we place the final order?
Buyer: Yes, I would like to have matching size coolant lines coming from my TB, just something I always wanted.
Salesaman: Well, we can do that for you!
:rolleyes:
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Re: Ran into problem doing TB Bypass.. Help! (Jbaker)
I think the most effective way to do this TB Bypass is to not bypass it at all. Throw away the kit. Remove the 2 coolant lines that attach to the TB and PLUG them.
Even better , remove the 2 Tees in the coolant supply and return lines completely and replace with straight through connectors. By attaching the 2 lines that went to the TB together with this kit , you are actually allowing a small a mount of coolant to short cycle the radiator and not flow through the engine block. What you gain in cooler air to the TB you loose in shorting the engine of coolant. Plug em. Works fine.
Even better , remove the 2 Tees in the coolant supply and return lines completely and replace with straight through connectors. By attaching the 2 lines that went to the TB together with this kit , you are actually allowing a small a mount of coolant to short cycle the radiator and not flow through the engine block. What you gain in cooler air to the TB you loose in shorting the engine of coolant. Plug em. Works fine.
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Re: Ran into problem doing TB Bypass.. Help! (4-ACES)
I think the most effective way to do this TB Bypass is to not bypass it at all. Throw away the kit. Remove the 2 coolant lines that attach to the TB and PLUG them.
Even better , remove the 2 Tees in the coolant supply and return lines completely and replace with straight through connectors. By attaching the 2 lines that went to the TB together with this kit , you are actually allowing a small a mount of coolant to short cycle the radiator and not flow through the engine block. What you gain in cooler air to the TB you loose in shorting the engine of coolant. Plug em. Works fine.
Even better , remove the 2 Tees in the coolant supply and return lines completely and replace with straight through connectors. By attaching the 2 lines that went to the TB together with this kit , you are actually allowing a small a mount of coolant to short cycle the radiator and not flow through the engine block. What you gain in cooler air to the TB you loose in shorting the engine of coolant. Plug em. Works fine.
Jeff, you have mail.
[Modified by Strick, 9:51 PM 12/1/2003]
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Re: Ran into problem doing TB Bypass.. Help! (Strick)
[QUOTE]How does your heater work? :skep:
OH.......you want heat too? Just take out the plugs and reattach to the TB. :)
You're right .....I should have started with " If you live in a warm climate and don't need your heater"
OH.......you want heat too? Just take out the plugs and reattach to the TB. :)
You're right .....I should have started with " If you live in a warm climate and don't need your heater"
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Re: Ran into problem doing TB Bypass.. Help! (4-ACES)
You're right .....I should have started with " If you live in a warm climate and don't need your heater"
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Re: Ran into problem doing TB Bypass.. Help! (4-ACES)
I think the most effective way to do this TB Bypass is to not bypass it at all. Throw away the kit. Remove the 2 coolant lines that attach to the TB and PLUG them.
Even better , remove the 2 Tees in the coolant supply and return lines completely and replace with straight through connectors. By attaching the 2 lines that went to the TB together with this kit , you are actually allowing a small a mount of coolant to short cycle the radiator and not flow through the engine block. What you gain in cooler air to the TB you loose in shorting the engine of coolant. Plug em. Works fine.
Even better , remove the 2 Tees in the coolant supply and return lines completely and replace with straight through connectors. By attaching the 2 lines that went to the TB together with this kit , you are actually allowing a small a mount of coolant to short cycle the radiator and not flow through the engine block. What you gain in cooler air to the TB you loose in shorting the engine of coolant. Plug em. Works fine.
Anyway, on my 92 the hoses were different sizes. I just made a "connector" for them. I left the holes that go "through" the TB open. No real need for caps. Jeff, did you finally just put in a new piece of hose? Seems like the easiest way to me. Hope you got it taken care of!
-Rick
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Re: Ran into problem doing TB Bypass.. Help! (cicch95)
Jeff, did you finally just put in a new piece of hose? Seems like the easiest way to me. Hope you got it taken care of!
-Rick
-Rick
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Re: Ran into problem doing TB Bypass.. Help! (Jbaker)
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Re: Ran into problem doing TB Bypass.. Help! (warren s)
Jbaker, I didn't see that anyone commented about the PCV Valve in your request. On my 93, it is under the fuel rail cover on the driver side. It is right on the intake manifold and has a U-shaped hose connecting the PCV Valve back to the intake manifold. I finally found mine too (by mistake, I thought it would have been on the passenger side and thought maybe the original owner ordered it without a PCV Valve, like your original owner ordered yours with the same size TB collant hoses :D .) When I pulled the hose off of the PCV Valve, the hose fell apart. Check to see who bad your hose is before you pull it off. You may want to pick up a new one from the dealer. The hose is around $5. Good luck.
:cheers:
:cheers:
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Re: Ran into problem doing TB Bypass.. Help! (Whitvette)
DON'T PLUG UP THE HOSES!! The vent from the back expels any trapped air, from time to time, up from the rear and back into the radiator. One does not want trapped air in the heads!
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Re: Ran into problem doing TB Bypass.. Help! (southern_son)
Thanks for all the help & advice here guys...
Strick, thanks for those pictures, it helped me decide my next step, too!
I'm curious if ALL '95's now, have the same size coolant lines? If so, it'd a fairly straight forward job! Now all I need to do is bleed the system.. But, I'm not going anywhere, since this white crap just started falling out of the sky :mad ... She's sleeping now.
Strick, thanks for those pictures, it helped me decide my next step, too!
I'm curious if ALL '95's now, have the same size coolant lines? If so, it'd a fairly straight forward job! Now all I need to do is bleed the system.. But, I'm not going anywhere, since this white crap just started falling out of the sky :mad ... She's sleeping now.
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Re: Ran into problem doing TB Bypass.. Help! (Jbaker)
I'm glad you didn't use that four letter word describing falling frozen precipation. Even in the Carolinas it trys to sn_w. Makes me wonder if I moved far enough south. :skep:
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Re: Ran into problem doing TB Bypass.. Help! (Jbaker)
But, I'm not going anywhere, since this white crap just started falling out of the sky :mad ... She's sleeping now.
See ya in the spring!! :D
-Rick
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Re: Ran into problem doing TB Bypass.. Help! (Jbaker)
Mr. Baker
I am Justin Abbott with Zip Products, I would like to aplogize for what was explained to you about your problem. We pride ourselves on our customer service and the satisfaction of our customers on the parts they recieve. Please send the part back that is wrong attention to Justin Abbott and I will make sure you get your refund and refund on the shipping plus a $10 gift certificate. I am truly sorry that one of our salesman said this to you and I will take care of it.
Thank you
Justin Abbott
I am Justin Abbott with Zip Products, I would like to aplogize for what was explained to you about your problem. We pride ourselves on our customer service and the satisfaction of our customers on the parts they recieve. Please send the part back that is wrong attention to Justin Abbott and I will make sure you get your refund and refund on the shipping plus a $10 gift certificate. I am truly sorry that one of our salesman said this to you and I will take care of it.
Thank you
Justin Abbott
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Re: Ran into problem doing TB Bypass.. Help! (jabbott)
Mr. Baker
I am Justin Abbott with Zip Products, I would like to aplogize for what was explained to you about your problem. We pride ourselves on our customer service and the satisfaction of our customers on the parts they recieve. Please send the part back that is wrong attention to Justin Abbott and I will make sure you get your refund and refund on the shipping plus a $10 gift certificate. I am truly sorry that one of our salesman said this to you and I will take care of it.
Thank you
Justin Abbott
I am Justin Abbott with Zip Products, I would like to aplogize for what was explained to you about your problem. We pride ourselves on our customer service and the satisfaction of our customers on the parts they recieve. Please send the part back that is wrong attention to Justin Abbott and I will make sure you get your refund and refund on the shipping plus a $10 gift certificate. I am truly sorry that one of our salesman said this to you and I will take care of it.
Thank you
Justin Abbott
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Re: Ran into problem doing TB Bypass.. Help! (jabbott)
Mr. Baker
I am Justin Abbott with Zip Products, I would like to aplogize for what was explained to you about your problem. We pride ourselves on our customer service and the satisfaction of our customers on the parts they recieve. Please send the part back that is wrong attention to Justin Abbott and I will make sure you get your refund and refund on the shipping plus a $10 gift certificate. I am truly sorry that one of our salesman said this to you and I will take care of it.
Thank you
Justin Abbott
I am Justin Abbott with Zip Products, I would like to aplogize for what was explained to you about your problem. We pride ourselves on our customer service and the satisfaction of our customers on the parts they recieve. Please send the part back that is wrong attention to Justin Abbott and I will make sure you get your refund and refund on the shipping plus a $10 gift certificate. I am truly sorry that one of our salesman said this to you and I will take care of it.
Thank you
Justin Abbott
You just got my future orders, too.
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Re: Ran into problem doing TB Bypass.. Help! (Jbaker)
Hi Jeff, long time no talk! Hope this is finally worked out for you :seeya
I am now a ZIP customer too after reading Justin's post.....how nice that was of him :cheers:
I am now a ZIP customer too after reading Justin's post.....how nice that was of him :cheers:
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Re: Ran into problem doing TB Bypass.. Help! (Caboboy)
Instead of all the monkey business with adaptors and plugs use a 96 upper radiator hose and 96 heater hose
PN 10262505 & 10257252 ( I think, been a couple of years and reciept only says 'hose')
PN 10262505 & 10257252 ( I think, been a couple of years and reciept only says 'hose')
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Re: Ran into problem doing TB Bypass.. Help! (Caboboy)
Hi Jeff, long time no talk! Hope this is finally worked out for you :seeya
I am now a ZIP customer too after reading Justin's post.....how nice that was of him :cheers:
I am now a ZIP customer too after reading Justin's post.....how nice that was of him :cheers:
I'm sending the kit back with UPS Friday, and am glad to still be doing business with ZIP.. It's tough, when your in this business, if you get one saleperson who just doesn't care, and will tell you anything they THINK you want to hear... It can damage a company's reputation. I've bought a lot through them in the past year, and will be buying plenty more in the future!!!