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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 11:59 PM
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Default Re: Gas test-regular was better (ir0nmaiden420)

If you put diesel in a gasoline engine, it would probably not run at all, or run very poorly. If you put gasoline in a diesel engine, you would be buying a new engine.
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 12:03 AM
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Default Re: Gas test-regular was better (JCAIRE2)

What about JP8 +100, it's almost like diesel :D
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 12:13 AM
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Default Re: Gas test-regular was better (nodoubt)

All I have to say is :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

I had just always heard run premium.
God I love this forum, just wish I knew this several hundred $$$ ago!
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 12:34 AM
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Default Re: Gas test-regular was better (CFI-EFI)

I'm thinking that a lot of folks get the idea they need Hi-octane from what was needed in the old days. Back then cars ran higher compression; 10-11 to 1, with inefficient combustion chambers, and poor fuel and ignition management. Our cars are better engineered, and more efficient. LS motors are even more so, and can probably run even higher compression than ours. MY $.02.
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 07:28 AM
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In the Owners Manual for my 87, it says to use 91+....but you may use lesser octane fuel at reduced acceleration. I think I'll stick to 91 at the higher acceleration! :steering: :D
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 09:48 AM
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I've only had my 90 since July last year and up until the last couple months only used 91 octane. I tried the 89 one day to see if I could notice any performance/operation problems and after 4 or 5 tanks I switched back to 91. There was no difference in mileage or performance and I detected no ping or knock with the lower octance gas. My engine has nearly 100K on it and not knowing how the previous owners maintained it, there could be enough compression loss due to wear that the 89 works with no problem. Once I rebuild it there is the possibility that I may have to use 91.

A friend of mine uses 91 exlusively in all his vehicles even though the owners manual states that 87 is recommended. His theory is that if 87 is good then 91 is even better. He refuses to listen to my arguments that he is wasting money and hurting performance by using the higher octane gas. He believes that if it's more expensive it's better.
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 10:07 AM
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Default Re: Gas test-regular was better (USAsOnlyWay)

All I have to say is :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

I had just always heard run premium.
God I love this forum, just wish I knew this several hundred $$$ ago!
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Your also thanking the forum for using higher than needed octane because most here will probably say you must use 91+ ;)

Like some have already said unless you have the compression and timing to take advantage of 91+ it does you no good and actually hurts performance. The L98 is just a small block chevy even tho the valve covers have a corvette emblem on em. I would beg to say that the LT1 probably should have higher octane because of the higer compression but they also have reverse cooling which is supposed to help with detonation so you may be able to get by with lower? My LS1 based truck uses 87 just fine

diesel doesn't use octane ratings, uses cetane, cetane is how easy it is to ignite unlike octane. diesel burns much slower than gas and has a higher btu.
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 10:20 AM
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The LT-1 says in the gas goor "Only use premium" I will not disobey my car. :lol:
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Default Re: Gas test-regular was better (VictorRussell'92)

Just consulted my manual, it says 87 octane :eek: It additionally states running higher octane grades is an uneccesary waste of money :chevy So, this has been an interesting discussion and caused me to dig my manual out. I could have sworn when I originally scanned it that it said 91. A'course my VCR blinks 12:00 too :lolg:

The posts regarding compression don't really seem to state hard #'s I'm running 9.8:1 is 87 still the best choice? Save money--increase milage, I'm there if it's not detrimental to the health of my motor :smash: :cheers:

Guess I won't be buying that $6 108 octane at the track this weekend either :party:


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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 03:32 PM
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Default Re: Gas test-regular was better (ir0nmaiden420)

somewhat off the main topic--what would happen if you put diesel in a regular engine by accident, and vice versa?
A gas engine won't run on diesel or jet fuel. This actually happens to airplanes from time to time. Most airports have avgas and jetfuel and inevitably, someone will put the wrong fuel in. The will start up and run depending how much avgas was in there. It alway seems though that the run just long enough to get into the air and then quit............

There are two reasons that diesels get better milage, one is that there are more BTU's of energy in diesel and the other is the higher compression ratios. I like to think of them as expansion ratios actually and the more that the hot gas is expanded, the more energy is extracted from it before it is dumped out the exhauast
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