hiding a NOS system
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From: Wescosville Pa
hiding a NOS system
Well, I'm in a tight bind. I want more horsepower, but have a limited budget. NOS would be my best alternative. However, my parents think that the car is powerful enough and can't understand why I want to do anymore. So they won't let me buy any performance parts besides the headers I've been wanting.
However, I do have enough cash saved up to buy a NOS kit. But, I can't have a 10lbs bottle sitting in the trunk. If I could, I still don't think I would want it to take up the space in the back. And the thought of the NOS bottle in the spare tire compartment, with the road and anyone behind me mere feet and fractions of inches of plastic between it doesn't excite me.
So, I was thinking of running a 75 shot dry nitrous ststem with a 2 or 5 lbs bottle. Would it work if I mounted the bottle upright in the storage bin? Or does it have to be on a 15 degree angle? Would I need purge valves with a 75 horse kit?
How discreet can I be with nitrous? What do I absolutely need, and what would I be looking at in price when all is said and done?
Thanks in advace!
-Dave
However, I do have enough cash saved up to buy a NOS kit. But, I can't have a 10lbs bottle sitting in the trunk. If I could, I still don't think I would want it to take up the space in the back. And the thought of the NOS bottle in the spare tire compartment, with the road and anyone behind me mere feet and fractions of inches of plastic between it doesn't excite me.
So, I was thinking of running a 75 shot dry nitrous ststem with a 2 or 5 lbs bottle. Would it work if I mounted the bottle upright in the storage bin? Or does it have to be on a 15 degree angle? Would I need purge valves with a 75 horse kit?
How discreet can I be with nitrous? What do I absolutely need, and what would I be looking at in price when all is said and done?
Thanks in advace!
-Dave
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From: Lahaina Hi
Yes the bottle can be installed up right .
yes you need a purge to keep the fuel from puddleing in the intake.
no nitrous is not explosive.
yes the bottle can over heat and blow the burst disc.bottle heat can not be over 110 degrees.
if the hood is opened yes your peeps will know something is diff at the throttle body.Yes nitrous is like running around with a hand grenade pin pulled.
Figure about a grand,all said and done.
yes you need a purge to keep the fuel from puddleing in the intake.
no nitrous is not explosive.
yes the bottle can over heat and blow the burst disc.bottle heat can not be over 110 degrees.
if the hood is opened yes your peeps will know something is diff at the throttle body.Yes nitrous is like running around with a hand grenade pin pulled.
Figure about a grand,all said and done.
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Drifting
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From: Bristol CT
Don't waste your money on NOS if your not an avid Track user....Its only good for racing, not everyday driving....If you hit the NOS daily your gonna spend a ton on Refills..plus, if you do constantly hit it everyday...your gonna break something like pistons and your gonna kick yourself in the nards and call yourself susan..Save your money for when you break away for your parents and invest in some head/cam/ work with headers/exhaust or a just a complete engine rebuild....i would say Supercharger as a last resort
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From: Markham Ontario
I just have to ask.......at 18 years old, how are you able to drive a Vette? At 18, I was driving a 1980 Capri with a straight 6..... then got my 86 Capril RS 5.0L when I was 20.... went through various cars until my 88 Vette now..... (Acura TL and a Montana are my other vehicles).
Just curious........
Just curious........
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From: Honolulu, HI
Originally Posted by DSSKing
I just have to ask.......at 18 years old, how are you able to drive a Vette? At 18, I was driving a 1980 Capri with a straight 6..... then got my 86 Capril RS 5.0L when I was 20.... went through various cars until my 88 Vette now..... (Acura TL and a Montana are my other vehicles).
Just curious........
Just curious........
Dude, have you priced C4's lately? They're a dime a dozen. It makes me puke when I think kids these days can drive such a beautful high performance car like a C4.....but they'd rather spend more on a slow riced out honda civic.
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yah i agree. kids these days are interested in lime green ricer hatchbacks. they claim 13 second quarter miles but i raced one that had a type r motor and tranny with a heavy z28 convertable and blew his doors off. thats the lightest ricer and one of there most powerful engins. im not impressed and dont even race them when they they look at me. its not worth my gas
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Originally Posted by DSSKing
I just have to ask.......at 18 years old, how are you able to drive a Vette? At 18, I was driving a 1980 Capri with a straight 6..... then got my 86 Capril RS 5.0L when I was 20.... went through various cars until my 88 Vette now..... (Acura TL and a Montana are my other vehicles).
Just curious........
Just curious........
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From: Miami FL
I bought my first corvette about a year ago. I am 23. I got a very clean well maintained 85 vette with 68k on it for 4,200. I had 2 3rd gen Camaro's before this.. I have wanted a vette for as long as I can remember. I live in Miami, Florida.. Let me tell you something there alot of those "Pimped out" rice burners here. Some very fast supra's.. I got smoked by one this past weekend.. not to metion.. the ferrari's and porches everywhere.. so. I have really been thinking about NOS too. MODs to my L98 are MSD 6AL. Hypertech Coil, Fuel Pressure regulator. Hooker Headers, thats it.. some suspension work.. so I have all ready spent like 2 k on it.. NOS sounds like a cheap way to make sure I dont get beat by and supra's anymore..
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N20 is great! You can hide it well enough from parents(well, mom at least), hide the solenoids, cover the braided line in plactic tubing for electrical, and plumb the nozzle in the underside of the intake. Seems like 99% of the people that I meet don't even know how it should look.
What's going to be hard is expaining the 11 second timeslip!
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Don't let them scare you off 
Nitrous is fun. I use it quite a bit just driving around town looking for trouble. Ive used it going to work a few times on people trying to mess with me, etc.
anyway...
a kit should run you under $500 easy, and all the extra safety stuff should run about $300ish. I have a buddy that is a dealer for NX if you are interested.
I couldn't find anywhere to hide my solenoids though (i have the NX pro iceman solenoids)..and well.. unless you get a remote bottle opener and stick it in the spare tire well, then forget hiding that. I have a few friends that hide their bottles in a gym bag with other crap stuffed around it... it looks just like any other bag of junk in the back.
I think i could hide my solenoids if i had longer hoses from them to the nozzle, but i just ended up mounting each one on either side of my plenum between each pair of runners. It looks quite cool.
Nitrous is safe, cheap and fun. You just need to make sure you understand how it works, what NOT to do, and get a few safety items for it to make sure you don't blow your motor up.
Nitrous is fun. I use it quite a bit just driving around town looking for trouble. Ive used it going to work a few times on people trying to mess with me, etc.
anyway...
a kit should run you under $500 easy, and all the extra safety stuff should run about $300ish. I have a buddy that is a dealer for NX if you are interested.
I couldn't find anywhere to hide my solenoids though (i have the NX pro iceman solenoids)..and well.. unless you get a remote bottle opener and stick it in the spare tire well, then forget hiding that. I have a few friends that hide their bottles in a gym bag with other crap stuffed around it... it looks just like any other bag of junk in the back.
I think i could hide my solenoids if i had longer hoses from them to the nozzle, but i just ended up mounting each one on either side of my plenum between each pair of runners. It looks quite cool.
Nitrous is safe, cheap and fun. You just need to make sure you understand how it works, what NOT to do, and get a few safety items for it to make sure you don't blow your motor up.
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im 17 and i have a 90 corvete which is gettn fully made over, sc motor all the good stuff. full race suspension, and ive had it since iwas 16, ive had like 6 or 7 cars since ive had my license, and i still have 3 of them.....
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Originally Posted by crkemppainen
I am 20 years old and i recently bought a 93 coupe for 9500 bucks....how did i pay for it?
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Burning Brakes
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From: SouthBend IN
my friend just went really quick with his stock motor lt-1 firebird. 11.00 @ 120.56 with nitrous and propane.
But he had a 150 homemade dry kit on it before that with the bottle in the back and the solenoid in the back of the car too with a low pressure line going to the front of the car ( stock air box) and went 11.52 @ 115.98. 1.55 60'. He put the micro ( WOT) switch under the dash by the pedal and just had a small black line running up to the air box ....NO ONE COULD DETECT . The advantage of the solenoid in the back when set up small , like 50-75 HP is the car will come on slowly and still hook up on stock street tires. The vette's do better than 4th gen's at this anyway.
I think he had $300 in the whole kit.
Mike
But he had a 150 homemade dry kit on it before that with the bottle in the back and the solenoid in the back of the car too with a low pressure line going to the front of the car ( stock air box) and went 11.52 @ 115.98. 1.55 60'. He put the micro ( WOT) switch under the dash by the pedal and just had a small black line running up to the air box ....NO ONE COULD DETECT . The advantage of the solenoid in the back when set up small , like 50-75 HP is the car will come on slowly and still hook up on stock street tires. The vette's do better than 4th gen's at this anyway.
I think he had $300 in the whole kit.
Mike
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From: Houston TX
[QUOTE=NOS just seems too impractial, but is also very tempting because of the cheap prices. I guess I'll wait *sigh* 
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Actually to do a N2O set up properly it is not cheap. The kit is just the beginning and without the safety features you will blow your engine. How cheap is that?
[/QUOTE]Actually to do a N2O set up properly it is not cheap. The kit is just the beginning and without the safety features you will blow your engine. How cheap is that?
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From: Honolulu, HI
Actually to do a N2O set up properly it is not cheap.
The kit is just the beginning and without the safety features you will blow your engine. How cheap is that?
Heads/cam is the most reliable, but that ISN'T cheap.
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the reason i like nitrous as opposed to blower, turbo, H/C is you have to always power those with the motor. Don't think a bigger cam, or turning a blower all the time isn't laborous on a motor ? Sure you have it all the time, but who really needs it when 99% of daily driving. I'd rather have the smaller cam and heads for better economy.
As far as cost goes, I do mine really cheap ( $250 wet kit), but a nice kit with all the good stuff could be had for $800-$1000, and installed by your self at home, still use the stock tune. The blower cost 3K, turbos are more than that..and all have to be tuned, programed, etc. Go the forced induction and read about the guys unhappy with their current blower setups. I'm not bashing blowers, just showing some differences i feel important.
As far as blowing an engine with a power adder..well their all equal. You can spray a 100 shot no problems, 150 on race gas, colder plugs and pulling timing. Put a 250 on it and it will explode, unless built for that. Same goes for blowers and turbos, too much boost and it'll explode. Bigger cam and you'll be reving it more.
This is what i came up with as to which adder to use.
As far as cost goes, I do mine really cheap ( $250 wet kit), but a nice kit with all the good stuff could be had for $800-$1000, and installed by your self at home, still use the stock tune. The blower cost 3K, turbos are more than that..and all have to be tuned, programed, etc. Go the forced induction and read about the guys unhappy with their current blower setups. I'm not bashing blowers, just showing some differences i feel important.
As far as blowing an engine with a power adder..well their all equal. You can spray a 100 shot no problems, 150 on race gas, colder plugs and pulling timing. Put a 250 on it and it will explode, unless built for that. Same goes for blowers and turbos, too much boost and it'll explode. Bigger cam and you'll be reving it more.
This is what i came up with as to which adder to use.
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From: Honolulu, HI
Originally Posted by mike 1985
the reason i like nitrous as opposed to blower, turbo, H/C is you have to always power those with the motor. Don't think a bigger cam, or turning a blower all the time isn't laborous on a motor ? Sure you have it all the time, but who really needs it when 99% of daily driving. I'd rather have the smaller cam and heads for better economy.
As far as cost goes, I do mine really cheap ( $250 wet kit), but a nice kit with all the good stuff could be had for $800-$1000, and installed by your self at home, still use the stock tune. The blower cost 3K, turbos are more than that..and all have to be tuned, programed, etc. Go the forced induction and read about the guys unhappy with their current blower setups. I'm not bashing blowers, just showing some differences i feel important.
As far as blowing an engine with a power adder..well their all equal. You can spray a 100 shot no problems, 150 on race gas, colder plugs and pulling timing. Put a 250 on it and it will explode, unless built for that. Same goes for blowers and turbos, too much boost and it'll explode. Bigger cam and you'll be reving it more.
This is what i came up with as to which adder to use.
As far as cost goes, I do mine really cheap ( $250 wet kit), but a nice kit with all the good stuff could be had for $800-$1000, and installed by your self at home, still use the stock tune. The blower cost 3K, turbos are more than that..and all have to be tuned, programed, etc. Go the forced induction and read about the guys unhappy with their current blower setups. I'm not bashing blowers, just showing some differences i feel important.
As far as blowing an engine with a power adder..well their all equal. You can spray a 100 shot no problems, 150 on race gas, colder plugs and pulling timing. Put a 250 on it and it will explode, unless built for that. Same goes for blowers and turbos, too much boost and it'll explode. Bigger cam and you'll be reving it more.
This is what i came up with as to which adder to use.
But it is nice not having to fill a bottle and having the power whenever I feel like stepping on it, which is quite often.
Is it worth the extra money for the blower for that benefit? eeehh. Maybe, maybe not, depends on what you want.