Thumper turbo project getting started
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Melting Slicks
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From: Rochester NY
Thumper turbo project getting started
Rick and I start cutting my car today. We are mapping out how the turbo would be position. So far it is looking good. It is also a tight fit because the thumper is a beefie turbo. Here are a few pics for you guy to take a peek at it.
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From: Houston Texas
Dang, fits like a glove. What do you do to keep it from getting too hot in there and melting the floor pan? Also, where are you going to route that intake to? Keep sending pics, it is motivating me to finish my project, albeit just a supercharger.
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Melting Slicks
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From: Rochester NY
We plan to run 1 bar or 15psi of boost for the street and maybe 24psi with C16 fuel. I am gona need a roll bar for this car when it all done. My persuit of 1000rwhp. Will I see it ??
ps. We are going to run a huge front mount air to air intercooler. It gonna be the same size as the radiator but with 3.5 thick. It will need a lot cooling for alot of boost.
Bruce
ps. We are going to run a huge front mount air to air intercooler. It gonna be the same size as the radiator but with 3.5 thick. It will need a lot cooling for alot of boost.
Bruce
Last edited by Bruce; Nov 8, 2004 at 03:06 PM.
Melting Slicks
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From: Jackson MI
So any ideas on how you're gonna get the 4-5" down pipe through the wheel well? I figured you guys were gonna mount it at a 90 degree angle from what the pics show. I'm still trying to figure out how you guys are going to get the 3" air pipe back up to the front around the tranny. It might be easier to do a cross over pipe infront of the engien and leave one side open for the intake piping. I'll definately be watching this one too.
Last edited by mn_vette; Nov 8, 2004 at 03:11 PM.
Drifting
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From: Honeoye Ny
building a banjo style intake with a panel filter under glass in the back (over all the abs stuff) with it breathing behind the wheel wells This requires cutting out the fiberglass above the rear end to make a channel above the torque beam.
The exhaust will also be a banjo style (also hand hammered) and exiting in a 2.25x5in oval in front of the right rear wheel.
When you fold up his cover you will see a polished, inconel heatshielded thumper under pyrex with the "air spillway" in clear view under the cover as well. Just wait and see guys I have it all mapped out in my evil bald head
The exhaust will also be a banjo style (also hand hammered) and exiting in a 2.25x5in oval in front of the right rear wheel.
When you fold up his cover you will see a polished, inconel heatshielded thumper under pyrex with the "air spillway" in clear view under the cover as well. Just wait and see guys I have it all mapped out in my evil bald head
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Melting Slicks
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I am really glad we live so far apart rick.. you and I near each other would be a tad bit scary...lol doubt we'd be happy until we had a turbine engine with 4 wheels attached looking like a soap box car..lol
anyways.. i strongly considered this idea a long time ago, and after looking at it forever and ever, i decided to go with a more traditional setup.. in hind site, I may have gone this route after seeing what is involved in my project .. bbut oh well.. not gonna turn back at this point.. just need some friggin time to work it all out!
keep the pics coming.. it is addictive to watch these things unfold!
talk to ya soon!
Chris
anyways.. i strongly considered this idea a long time ago, and after looking at it forever and ever, i decided to go with a more traditional setup.. in hind site, I may have gone this route after seeing what is involved in my project .. bbut oh well.. not gonna turn back at this point.. just need some friggin time to work it all out!
keep the pics coming.. it is addictive to watch these things unfold!
talk to ya soon!
Chris
Melting Slicks
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Hey, I see your putting on a Rear Mount Turbo, STS.
Anyway I'm trying the same thing but Im using a tad bit bigger engine ( 406~6.6L) and a bigger Turbo.
Now I see your setup, Im thinking that maybe if mine doesnt work out b/c it was too big and heavy, about 30lbs of a big diesel around 7+L. Not the kind of Semi truck Diesel like BaldTurbofreak though. Anyway I measured it up and thought about fitting it in the back where the storage compartments are but it was too big. I hope everything works out for you, I'ld like to know if that Turbo spools up too fast or too slow. BTW the one STS uses on the LS1 F-bodies ( Saw this on Hotrod.com I think) is pretty damn small. Looks like something a twin turbo setup would be used for.
Anyway I'm trying the same thing but Im using a tad bit bigger engine ( 406~6.6L) and a bigger Turbo.
Now I see your setup, Im thinking that maybe if mine doesnt work out b/c it was too big and heavy, about 30lbs of a big diesel around 7+L. Not the kind of Semi truck Diesel like BaldTurbofreak though. Anyway I measured it up and thought about fitting it in the back where the storage compartments are but it was too big. I hope everything works out for you, I'ld like to know if that Turbo spools up too fast or too slow. BTW the one STS uses on the LS1 F-bodies ( Saw this on Hotrod.com I think) is pretty damn small. Looks like something a twin turbo setup would be used for.
Drifting
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From: Honeoye Ny
Originally Posted by Light84vette
Hey, I see your putting on a Rear Mount Turbo, STS.
Anyway I'm trying the same thing but Im using a tad bit bigger engine ( 406~6.6L) and a bigger Turbo.
Now I see your setup, Im thinking that maybe if mine doesnt work out b/c it was too big and heavy, about 30lbs of a big diesel around 7+L. Not the kind of Semi truck Diesel like BaldTurbofreak though. Anyway I measured it up and thought about fitting it in the back where the storage compartments are but it was too big. I hope everything works out for you, I'ld like to know if that Turbo spools up too fast or too slow. BTW the one STS uses on the LS1 F-bodies ( Saw this on Hotrod.com I think) is pretty damn small. Looks like something a twin turbo setup would be used for.
Anyway I'm trying the same thing but Im using a tad bit bigger engine ( 406~6.6L) and a bigger Turbo.
Now I see your setup, Im thinking that maybe if mine doesnt work out b/c it was too big and heavy, about 30lbs of a big diesel around 7+L. Not the kind of Semi truck Diesel like BaldTurbofreak though. Anyway I measured it up and thought about fitting it in the back where the storage compartments are but it was too big. I hope everything works out for you, I'ld like to know if that Turbo spools up too fast or too slow. BTW the one STS uses on the LS1 F-bodies ( Saw this on Hotrod.com I think) is pretty damn small. Looks like something a twin turbo setup would be used for.
no they have quite a different approach to their systems. Technically, Bruce's turbo is only 10 inches farther from the exhuast port then my system. this is a purpose built race system that has been hung under the car , as opposed to up top, for the sake of vehicle dynamics and overall sneakyness.
I have alot more mapped out and a material list is finished. It's gonna kick ****.
Melting Slicks
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So tell me If I got this right, Your going to cut a section of fiberglass from uptop of the differential and then run the intake piping over the C beam? What happens when the transmission tunnel comes up? This puzzels me as well how to route the intake pipe, Plus it has to be pretty strong to hold up to 15psi and to even have it installed in there. 
Also, if Bruces car will only end up going an extra 10inches with his setup compared to yours Then that doesnt seem that bad as I thought it would be.
Also, if Bruces car will only end up going an extra 10inches with his setup compared to yours Then that doesnt seem that bad as I thought it would be.
Melting Slicks
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From: Jackson MI
Bruce, you're screwing with my ebay auction 
Guess I'll have to email the guy and see about his other wastegates. I thought with your size turbo that you'd need a bigger wastegate. Or perhaps your turbine flows enough air that you don't need it.
Guess I'll have to email the guy and see about his other wastegates. I thought with your size turbo that you'd need a bigger wastegate. Or perhaps your turbine flows enough air that you don't need it.