Do you think LPE would do this?
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Originally Posted by mdhmi
That's not what I said at all. LPE makes a great TT kit, however, if you already have a single turbo it would, IMHO, be a waste to change it.. I've seen a worked over Cerra put out 700rwhp on a 346 ci motor. Maybe you can explain how 650 bhp is better than 700 rwhp. 
Mark
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(fried the clutch on the 3rd dyno pull) we were at
837 RWHP at 6k when the clutch left the building.
I think with some tuning and a couple other adjustments (and a clutch)we can make even more, this will not have a 2 year warranty on the motor but it will be a reliable high HP set-up with the turbo components configured the same as the proven full warranty TT Packages, with superior power under the curve than the big singles.
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Originally Posted by 21STCENTURYMUSCLECAR
We are trying to complete a 346 Twin Turbo car,
(fried the clutch on the 3rd dyno pull) we were at
837 RWHP at 6k when the clutch left the building.
I think with some tuning and a couple other adjustments (and a clutch)we can make even more, this will not have a 2 year warranty on the motor but it will be a reliable high HP set-up with the turbo components configured the same as the proven full warranty TT Packages, with superior power under the curve than the big singles.
Regards,
John Page
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(fried the clutch on the 3rd dyno pull) we were at
837 RWHP at 6k when the clutch left the building.
I think with some tuning and a couple other adjustments (and a clutch)we can make even more, this will not have a 2 year warranty on the motor but it will be a reliable high HP set-up with the turbo components configured the same as the proven full warranty TT Packages, with superior power under the curve than the big singles.
Regards,
John Page
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John,
I'm certainly not questioning the incredible power that can be made with a TT kit. My comments were that 700 rwhp on a single turbo is better than 650 bhp on a TT. Why everyone thinks I'm dissing the LPE TT setup based on that statement is beyond me.
Mark
I'm certainly not questioning the incredible power that can be made with a TT kit. My comments were that 700 rwhp on a single turbo is better than 650 bhp on a TT. Why everyone thinks I'm dissing the LPE TT setup based on that statement is beyond me.
Mark
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Originally Posted by INSOMNIAC
And what is the cost of this setup? Is it the same with the regular LPE Stage II?
Thanks for your interest,
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Originally Posted by mdhmi
John,
I'm certainly not questioning the incredible power that can be made with a TT kit. My comments were that 700 rwhp on a single turbo is better than 650 bhp on a TT. Why everyone thinks I'm dissing the LPE TT setup based on that statement is beyond me.
Mark
I'm certainly not questioning the incredible power that can be made with a TT kit. My comments were that 700 rwhp on a single turbo is better than 650 bhp on a TT. Why everyone thinks I'm dissing the LPE TT setup based on that statement is beyond me.
Mark
No offense taken, I just wanted to let everyone know that the proven LPE Packages can make a bunch more power than the advertised horsepower on the full warranty TT Packages.
Regards,
John Page
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Originally Posted by 21STCENTURYMUSCLECAR
Mark,
No offense taken, I just wanted to let everyone know that the proven LPE Packages can make a bunch more power than the advertised horsepower on the full warranty TT Packages.
Regards,
John Page
No offense taken, I just wanted to let everyone know that the proven LPE Packages can make a bunch more power than the advertised horsepower on the full warranty TT Packages.
Regards,
John Page
I'll drink to that.
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No need for twins when a single will do. My car will do 800rwhp and 140+mph traps this spring, once my clutch is broken in. If I decide to get really serious, I'll tune the thing on race gas....and my hp curve isn't peaky (I make 16psi by 3200-3400rpm)...
Indiana, I'm guessing you aren't making the power that you thought...The Cerra kit was a solid basic starting point. Making a few tweaks here and there will take it to the level that you want. The best thing is...they are not that expensive. Give me a call and I can probably steer you in the right direction. I don't claim to be an expert, but I know what worked for me.
If you want to do an LPE twin, you wont be disappointed. Their customers seem to be really happy. I could have done the Stage II LPE setup, but I couldn't see spending 40K when I could do my entire car for less than 3/4 that amount.
...to put it all into perspective, I did my entire car (rims, tub kit, turbo setup, clutch, forged s/b, etc.) for less than the orginal cost for their Stage I. As far as warranty goes, for the price of their 700rwhp (warrantied) setup, I could rebuild my s/b 6 times. This is not a diss, it just comes down to dollars and cents.
In the end, you'll do whats right for you...good thing is, you have options.
Indiana, I'm guessing you aren't making the power that you thought...The Cerra kit was a solid basic starting point. Making a few tweaks here and there will take it to the level that you want. The best thing is...they are not that expensive. Give me a call and I can probably steer you in the right direction. I don't claim to be an expert, but I know what worked for me.
If you want to do an LPE twin, you wont be disappointed. Their customers seem to be really happy. I could have done the Stage II LPE setup, but I couldn't see spending 40K when I could do my entire car for less than 3/4 that amount.
...to put it all into perspective, I did my entire car (rims, tub kit, turbo setup, clutch, forged s/b, etc.) for less than the orginal cost for their Stage I. As far as warranty goes, for the price of their 700rwhp (warrantied) setup, I could rebuild my s/b 6 times. This is not a diss, it just comes down to dollars and cents.
In the end, you'll do whats right for you...good thing is, you have options.
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Originally Posted by mdhmi
That's not what I said at all. LPE makes a great TT kit, however, if you already have a single turbo it would, IMHO, be a waste to change it.. I've seen a worked over Cerra put out 700rwhp on a 346 ci motor. Maybe you can explain how 650 bhp is better than 700 rwhp.
Mark
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"A properly configured single will beat the snot out of one of those 650 bhp TT's."
Anyway, nice backstroke.
Last edited by GR8-LIFE; Feb 7, 2005 at 09:13 PM.
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Originally Posted by MARK's_C5TT
"A properly configured single will beat the snot out of one of those 650 bhp TT's." Anyway, nice backstroke.
Anyway, nice backstroke.Cheers,
Mark
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[QUOTE Indiana, I'm guessing you aren't making the power that you thought...[/QUOTE]
That's not it at all, Earl. Remember, I still have the 62-1.
If need be, I'll upgrade to a T-76. I just didn't plan on all of the heat issues. Plus, now my A/C won't turn on (hopefully somrthing simple and not a result of the heat). I think the kit has alot of promise. Right now, I'm staying with the single. Like I said before, I'm just weighing my options. 
That's not it at all, Earl. Remember, I still have the 62-1.
If need be, I'll upgrade to a T-76. I just didn't plan on all of the heat issues. Plus, now my A/C won't turn on (hopefully somrthing simple and not a result of the heat). I think the kit has alot of promise. Right now, I'm staying with the single. Like I said before, I'm just weighing my options.
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From: MI
Originally Posted by Indiana Z06
[QUOTE Indiana, I'm guessing you aren't making the power that you thought...
If need be, I'll upgrade to a T-76. I just didn't plan on all of the heat issues. Plus, now my A/C won't turn on (hopefully somrthing simple and not a result of the heat). I think the kit has alot of promise. Right now, I'm staying with the single. Like I said before, I'm just weighing my options. [/QUOTE]Give me a call at 248-842-3309.