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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 01:30 PM
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I have setup a tentative meeting for early February to go over the facility. It will be cool to see the wind tunnel testing area. Which these hoods were originally wind tunnel tested.

Trying to run down the hood options for us, and types. Got some information for those interested. There are two types of Pre Preg that will be used and both are CF inner and outer. There will be no Fiber Glass options.

The Z Preg comes out all Black with a Class A paintable surface. This is the one people will want, for it is a more desirable surface for painting. It is also a little less money.

The other Pre Preg is the more classic CF look (it has the weave). It comes out shiny but will need to be cleared (clear coated) to have the necessary protection and waxable surface. This option is a little more because of labor.

I will know how many we need to get a run in and what the prices are by tomorrow. Can't wait.

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One of the meeting items will be to determine the option I am working out to add a feature to the hood. I have to discuss the dynamics of it with the engineer.

My PMs are full so if you can't get through, post up your questions here and I will try and get some answers. In the meantime I will go clear out some PM space. If you want your names withheld for privacy please let me know in advance. I say this because I will probably post a list of people wanting a hood. But I will wait for concurrence.
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 02:25 PM
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I want hood # 2, since you will obviously get the first one. And can you kinda sorta give an idea of what the extra dded feature is, or is it a surprise
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 02:26 PM
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Kevin,

Can you disclose the feature that you are adding so that we can factor that in our decision making. Also, will the price include "screens"?

I know that this has been asked before, but can you also bid this out to ACP as well. We may get better terms (pricing and timin) and ACP has a ton of experience.

Speaking from experience, single sourcing usually ends up costing both the end-consumer and the person/company that is bidding out the work.

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well i like the thought of the clear coated weave but kinda think after a while ill start to look a little ricer. i dont wanna have a car that all your eyes can focus on is the hood.
i can see though a two tone!!!!

i am in.
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 03:05 PM
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Hey Kevin!

Replied via PM -

I'm thinking a weave/exposed CF version would be cool if you could a) leave a little exposed on top (paint the other 90%) and/or b) you could leave it unpainted on the underside (for a little cool CF exposure at shows!).

Anybody know?

If that kind of thing is doable, and others are interested in the exposed CF version, I'd consider that, but I'm plenty happy with a Pre-Preg version if that's what everyone else is getting (which also saves a little $$$ too), and I don't want to create any additional effort issues for just me

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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 03:13 PM
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Yeah, that's was I'm going back-n-forth on - some exposed CF is really slick, but can't figure out if that's doable. My car is MY, so leaving it just cleared would be WAY to contrasting for me (and a little "ricey")

A previous ride of mine I just cleared a CF hood, but the car was graphite grey pearl, so the cleared carbon fiber was almost the exact same color as the paint!

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Originally Posted by NICK YOSKIN
well i like the thought of the clear coated weave but kinda think after a while ill start to look a little ricer. i dont wanna have a car that all your eyes can focus on is the hood.
i can see though a two tone!!!!

i am in.
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 03:21 PM
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Kevin,

Can you disclose the feature that you are adding so that we can factor that in our decision making. Also, will the price include "screens"?

I know that this has been asked before, but can you also bid this out to ACP as well. We may get better terms (pricing and timin) and ACP has a ton of experience.
I need to discuss my idea with the engineers first, and it will be something that is added to the hood afterwards...not incorporated into the mold itself. I don't want people thinking they are not going to get the hood that is pic'd and that has been produced in the past, its just an idea I have tinkering with for myelf. I need work with somebody who does photo shop and present it to people, and if they want it we will try it out on mine first to make sure it works good.
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Speaking from experience, single sourcing usually ends up costing both the end-consumer and the person/company that is bidding out the work.

Yes agreed and I appreciate your input and advice. If the prices are unreasonable I will consider another place to do business with. But I have viewed the shop and they have produced this hood before, and have the Autoclave and windtunnel on site. Dan Gurney is a legend man...we ain't going to get a bad product out of this place. Plus they are close to me, so I can visit them for progress or to resolve issues in person.

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Yeah, that's was I'm going back-n-forth on - some exposed CF is really slick, but can't figure out if that's doable. My car is MY, so leaving it just cleared would be WAY to contrasting for me (and a little "ricey")

A previous ride of mine I just cleared a CF hood, but the car was graphite grey pearl, so the cleared carbon fiber was almost the exact same color as the paint!

DT
Judging from PMs and thread info, it seems like there are a few of us, contemplating two tone or combo schemes. I like the thought of an all CF hood...but it might get kind of ricey after a bit. But then I might not even care.

I might just do the center section CF. Can't wait to get a price..thats going to make the decision for me probably...unless of course its only a couple $100...then I might not care. Depends what the base price is.

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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Shinobi'sZ
II might just do the center section CF. Can't wait to get a price..thats going to make the decision for me probably...unless of course its only a couple $100...then I might not care. Depends what the base price is.


kevin it might look cool if the the area were the air intakes are were left CF. there is a line on the body of the hood were the two vents could be left unpainted. know what i am saying??
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 05:05 PM
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 05:19 PM
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id love to see someone post a few 2 tone options, i have a great idea, but i dont have photoshop TTT
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 05:57 PM
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If you don’t have anyone with photoshop to try different paints in a few days, PM me and I’ll try a few versions for you. I’m kinda busy right now.


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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 06:32 PM
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Kevin,

I may be mistaken but I think Jim told me that they had some type of heat shielding built into the hood. Maybe I am wrong but that would be good to have.

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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 06:44 PM
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I have the hood, it came with a foil/fiber type heat shield glued on. I removed it to paint the hood.
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 06:53 PM
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Kevin,
You know I had an issue with that hood. The detail on the raw CF hood was flawed......pure and simple. The fact that this company would let something like that go out of their shop does not make me feel good at all. IF you do the hood....do it right the design is really KILLER for sure
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 08:12 PM
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Here's a couple quicky chops of paint ideas:






The differences between the two are subtle. The bottom one has the NACA duct left raw cf, and the top one has it painted. That's the only difference.
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by LuvmyC5
Here's a couple quicky chops of paint ideas:






The differences between the two are subtle. The bottom one has the NACA duct left raw cf, and the top one has it painted. That's the only difference.

good work!
that what i was thinking as far as two tone.

any other suggestions?
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 08:30 PM
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Thanks!

Here's another one:




If you guys have any ideas, and want to see them, Please don't hesitate to tell them and I'll try to do them.

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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 08:34 PM
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Nice!

How about leaving the intake area CF, and keep the rear exit in CF (take it from the exit out to the rear edge). So you'll have two small triangles in CF/black and two trapezoid type shapes in the rear.

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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 08:35 PM
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OMG!! Hahaha, that's EXACTLY what I just posted asking for! I must have been writing it while you were uploading it!

Great minds I guess

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Thanks!

Here's another one:


If you guys have any ideas, and want to see them, Please don't hesitate to tell them and I'll try to do them.

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