APS TT or TTiX Setup?
Melting Slicks
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From: West Coast Muscle Cars CA
Originally Posted by LB
Its to bad no one has come out a kit which would utilize the true ball bearing turbo charger and tubular exhaust manifolds for the c5. I am SURE there is a big market for a high end kit which could compete with APS or TTiX pricing.
Pro
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For the record,
I AM NOT THE ONE WHO BROUGHT UP THE BURNT VETTE.
If anything,
I proved it WAS NOT an APS car if the linked pics I posted was the basis of the"burnt APS vette" info we are getting.
Frankly,
it sounds like was an error of the tech working on the vette anyway.
I AM NOT THE ONE WHO BROUGHT UP THE BURNT VETTE.
If anything,
I proved it WAS NOT an APS car if the linked pics I posted was the basis of the"burnt APS vette" info we are getting.
Frankly,
it sounds like was an error of the tech working on the vette anyway.
Pro
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As I said previously, if I had know about the plastic bearing cages in the GT series turbo 2 years ago when APS started the C6 twin turbo program I would have campaigned against using GT turbos at that time. The C6 will definitely go to Mitsubishi precision turbos into the future, that's a no brainer. I hope that Garrett go to full steel bearing cages for the GT turbo in the future, then I will be more confident of the long term GT DBB product durability. 
True and that's why I post up to date information on all APS projects.
Peter
True and that's why I post up to date information on all APS projects.
Peter
So,
if you are saying the Mitsubishi turbos are better than the Garrett,
then why don't you just stop shipping the C6 kits with Garretts and start shipping them with Mitsubishis????
Pro
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Bottom line:
Every other turbo professional I have ever spoken to believes that ball bearing turbos spool faster, last longer, and are the best option available.
Now,
you come on here and say journals are better.
I don't know.
It all has me wondering.....
Every other turbo professional I have ever spoken to believes that ball bearing turbos spool faster, last longer, and are the best option available.
Now,
you come on here and say journals are better.
I don't know.
It all has me wondering.....
Melting Slicks
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From: Toronto Ontario
I agree. I think the kit will do a lot better if everyone was just straight forward... The C6 kit comes with true BB turbos and injectors for 1K more. I'd be interested in a C5 kit that is similar to the C6. I was also given the run around when I asked how this will work on a 427. Then given the run around when it came to turbo's...
Former Vendor
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These special circuit race turbos cost in the order of $25,000 each.
Peter
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I never said that, I like the way you put words into my mouth. The gas spec Mitsubisho precison turbo with a 713C turbine wheel is is my opinion superior to the Garrett journal bearing turbocharger (and all other aftermarket versions of the Garrett journal bearing turbo) and is a very high quality turbocharger with a long term durability record. 
The GT series turbos are an expensive turbocharger (and should have steel bearing cages, not plastic bearing cages) with marginal benefits relative to the high price, imho.
Peter
The GT series turbos are an expensive turbocharger (and should have steel bearing cages, not plastic bearing cages) with marginal benefits relative to the high price, imho.
Peter
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I have never stated that journal bearings are better than true dual ball bearing turbos (that is ball bearings in steel cages) though the high quality precision Mitsubishi gas turbo is an extremely reliable turbocharger in it's own right.
Peter
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Thankyou, I certainly try though it's testing at times.
The power vs boost graph below clearly demonstrates the power from the C5 intercooled twin turbo system at only 9 PSI on a bone stock C5 ZO6 tuned on 93 octane, all good imho.
Peter
The power vs boost graph below clearly demonstrates the power from the C5 intercooled twin turbo system at only 9 PSI on a bone stock C5 ZO6 tuned on 93 octane, all good imho.
Peter
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Very nice work. Thanks for all your imput and answers. Looks like a very nice turbo kit.
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http://www.airpowersystems.com.au/corvette/c5.htm
Peter
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Racer
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Well the question was posted to either go with TTix or a an APS kit. I like what I've read about both kits and both have there advantages/disadvantages.....none of which I will deal with 
D1SC going in soon. Sorry
D1SC going in soon. Sorry
