I was shocked to say the least when I found out how much a 4l80e cost. Still considering it but as much as I drive (not that much) a Glide looks plenty friendly to my pocket book compared to an 80e. I'm on a 28" tire and plan to keep 3.15s. I don't see an issue street driving that with a glide.

 

I'm curious....what rpms were you turning on that 300 mile drive with the 4.10s?

What modifications were needed to run that shifter? Cut the console or even take it out? Can you post some pics?


And I'm sure Arun would give you a "ARUN" for your money even with the 4l65e.....

But I wouldn't take him up on the arm wrestling being his arms are bigger then my thighs

 

I will post up some pics of my console later today. The shifter fits like stock, and bolts right in. Pretty straight forward, no crazy fab work needed.

I will also try and get a vid of my dash while street driving so you can see what it's like. I will be racing Wednesday and Thursday, so that will have to be next week most likely.

 

I completely agree.. But I was discussing the option between the glide and the 80E. Plus, although you may have defeated the odds, there are many many many guys who have lost 2,3,even 4 tranny's over a period of years with extremely high HP.

He was discussing the glide. The closest in comparrison to the glide would be the 80E (regarding brute strength). But I completely agree, that the 80E is serious overkill, and could probably accomplished by going with a 65E any day of the week.

The modification is nowhere near what some people make it out to be. The tranny tunnel modification is a piece of cake, and can be done in a weekend. Not to mention the fact that it looks completely stock.

If it were me, i'd do the 65E first, then the 80E. I would only do a glide if it was a car that saw most of its life on the track.
Not taking anything away from the glide, because the proof is in the pudding.. But a glide on the street, (from a DD standpoint) takes some serious b@lls..

 

Doug,

Would you enlighten me as to what rear diff you are running in conjunction with the glide? I'm in the midst of a 427/F1-R debacle and I have no plans to baby it. I'm the guy that emailed you guys about the Procharger stuff about a week or two ago.

 

Sweet... I loved my F1R... It whistled unlike any other headunit I had ever heard. Although I hated the way the power came on, since it was on a 347, I bet if it was on a 427+ it would hit like a freight train.

 

This started out as a 408/f1-c/4l60 project...lol This thing is going to be a heartbreaker if I can keep the drivetrain together.

 

Dougs Shifter.... I'll take more... next week....

 

I am running a std C5ZO6 rear, with 3.42 gears (cryo'd) both hardened shafts, and our spool kit. We do offer the PG with a C6Zo6 shaft also btw.

Many people have been asking me how we keep the diff's together at these levels. What is not taken into consideration by most is that the torque multiplication threw the glide is much less then a six speed, or 4l60 or 4l80. Thus making the entire drive train more reliable, not just the transmission.

For example;
the first gear of a powerglide (which can be changed) is 1.8, so if you are making 1000ftlbs of torque, the pinion will see 1,800 ftlbs of torque to it.
The exact same 1000ftlbs of torque to a six speed ZO6, which has a 2.97 first gear ratio, will see a pinion torque of 2,970 ftlbs.

The same 1000ftlbs of torque going threw a 4l60, with a 3.06 first gear ratio, ends up at 3,060 ftlbs of torqe applied to the pinion.

Common sense can tell you that with at least another 1000ft lbs of torque being applied to the stock rear housing, the chance of failure is drastically higher.

So with better 60' times, better/faster trans brake, more reliability from the whole drive train as a whole, for a racer it is a no brainer. The price is reasonable enough that a few years later you want to switch back to your stock trans because you dont have the time to race as much, or whatever, you can switch back to the stock trans in an afternoon, and sell the set up for reasonable return. It would cost less to do that, then to race with a 4l60 that needs to be rebuilt each year, let alone the other advantages.


I hope I answered your question clear enough, if not just let me know!


LSX shootout...

 

Where is the glide price on the ECS website?

 

I don't think it's on yet, but here's some info.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/drag...-of-heart.html

 

The Glide package is $6995. That comes complete and assembled. This includes the Complete Trans, adapter plates and housing. Trans Features a 2pc Reid Powerglide Case, Coan "INSTANT REACTION" 28" W/PRO TREE 5 BRAKE, STEEL HUB, Custom 300M SHAFT, "EXTREME DUTY" PLANETARY, 7 CLUTCHES, BILLET SERVO, DEEP ALUM PAN, 1.80 RATIO. The Mfg states that these Trans are good for 1200-1400 hp. If youre planning on making more power than that we'd recommend Back Halfing the car anyway. Available for C5/C6 or C6Z rears.

It's set to be on the site soon... just hasnt made it there quite yet.

 

Why in gods name would you wantto put a two speed in a corvette? If all you do is trailer to the track and race the car that could be understandable, but a glide and a sports car mix like oil and water IMHO.
I had one in my sweet little Nova SS lol the good old 63 two speed push button what a ride that was.
Myself I would take advantage of what this centurys technology has brought us get a stout four speed over drive and some decent rear end gears and enjoy your car every where!

 

Ignorance is bliss!

 

Because a stone age 2-speed on a 28" tire combined with a 3.15 gear and 1,000+ rwhp = goodbye Merven...@the track or on a closed street with a professional driver. Thank you for unscrewing my skull cap and vomiting knowledge onto my brain.

Doug, thank you for answering my question. That does make a helluva lot more sense to me now.

 

No prob, glad I could help.

 

Heres another one ready to leave!

 

yea then when you try to take it on a long trip like a vegas run (the way the car was designed to be used), oh wait you cant do that kind of driving with a power glide.
I know the power slide is a great drag tranny its just not streetable, I have never looked at the Vette as a drag car, its a luxuary super car and your trying to turn it into a 69 chevelle lol..........
To each their own i guess it is your car to enjoy as you please.

 

Most of the open header-all out drag cars, or dragsters that I have shown my tial lights to on the drag strip didnt think my car was anything more then a street car, go figure...


btw, I think anyone who does not buy a black on black convertable, and make it a track monster, is an idiot. Everyone should do exactly like I do or I'm going to post ignorance in their threads.... get my point?

 

umm yea I get your point, I think maybe your misunderstanding the perspective of my post, I love drag racing, Ive grenaded my share of 350's and 400's too!
I grew up drag racing with PS and 350 and 400 turbos, I was a manager for Super Shops here in Southern California and worked with many of the people who created the products we all enjoy now (Edelbrock, Mallory Erson etc.) I love the fact we can now have a streetable car that can put down as much as 1500 hp and still pick up the date for a nice dinner, when i was younger over 500 hp was a total garage queen used for saturday night money in Compton, or long beach.The car would rumble and shake at a stop light and spew raw fuel out the tail pipes, we have come light years from that havent we?
Good luck in your quest for speed in the 1/4 mile forum, I know I have spent a small fortune there myself, its addictive and a great rush!