Meth injection for Vortech setup?
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Meth injection for Vortech setup?
I'm considering a Meth setup for my Vortech centri setup (pic below for reference)
My questions:
1) where would be the best place for the injector?....Halo setup?
2) What all is involved with a meth setup.
I'd like to use my washer fluid tank to make the installation easy plus I'll have a DIC notification when i get low.
My questions:
1) where would be the best place for the injector?....Halo setup?
2) What all is involved with a meth setup.
I'd like to use my washer fluid tank to make the installation easy plus I'll have a DIC notification when i get low.
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2. Not much but you will want it tuned with the meth up and running.
3. Washer tank is what I used also. Unplug the electrical connector to the pump, but leave the pump in there. It closes off a hole. You can mount the new meth pump in the fenderwell behind the tire (remove the inner fender access panel). I covered the top of my pump with plastic because it is right under the drain utters.
Bret has some pics of his "3 injector" meth setup. You don't need that however it will give you a good idea on location. (basically a few inches in front of the throttle body).
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I'm considering a Meth setup for my Vortech centri setup (pic below for reference)
My questions:
1) where would be the best place for the injector?....Halo setup?
2) What all is involved with a meth setup.
I'd like to use my washer fluid tank to make the installation easy plus I'll have a DIC notification when i get low.
My questions:
1) where would be the best place for the injector?....Halo setup?
2) What all is involved with a meth setup.
I'd like to use my washer fluid tank to make the installation easy plus I'll have a DIC notification when i get low.
Example methanol flashes at 70 degree's. Water is 180. Thats why meth works better on lower boosted applications. Every PSI boost is 11 dgeree's. So 5 PSI=55 plus ambient.
The air velocity going through the pipe at WOT is 150+ MPH. So if the nozzle is 2 inches or 2 feet away.. doesnt matter. This is not nitrous on an NA car.
You can put the nozzle on the pipe in the silicone hose or metal pipe leading to it. I would not touch the TB.
Hope this helps.
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Nozzle placement doesnt matter as long as it goes pre-tb. You have to understand the way the meth works is if the temperature going over the nozzle is higher than the liquids flash temperature.. the meth will flash into the air and get even cylinder distribution. Well.. as evenly as the air distributes.
Example methanol flashes at 70 degree's. Water is 180. Thats why meth works better on lower boosted applications. Every PSI boost is 11 dgeree's. So 5 PSI=55 plus ambient.
The air velocity going through the pipe at WOT is 150+ MPH. So if the nozzle is 2 inches or 2 feet away.. doesnt matter. This is not nitrous on an NA car.
You can put the nozzle on the pipe in the silicone hose or metal pipe leading to it. I would not touch the TB.
Hope this helps.
Example methanol flashes at 70 degree's. Water is 180. Thats why meth works better on lower boosted applications. Every PSI boost is 11 dgeree's. So 5 PSI=55 plus ambient.
The air velocity going through the pipe at WOT is 150+ MPH. So if the nozzle is 2 inches or 2 feet away.. doesnt matter. This is not nitrous on an NA car.
You can put the nozzle on the pipe in the silicone hose or metal pipe leading to it. I would not touch the TB.
Hope this helps.
The only thing I want to add is install the nozzle in front of the IAT sensor for maximum benefit.
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Twin Turbo Meth Injected!
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I have a Twin Turbo setup running 6 PSI of boost and my Meth/H20 injector is just downstream of the MAF. As I understand it you really don't want the MAF sensor to see the affects of the Meth system. I have a custom tank in place of the old washer tank and the pump is inside the passenger fender. See pic below:
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Now.. that being said, the meth is used as an IC. So typically it goes after the heat source not before it. In your case after your IC. You can put a nozzle pre-blower but your gains/benefit vs risk/cost may not warrant it.
Keep it simple. Place nozzle and IAT in metal pipe. If you want to really be slick, ditch the 90 degree silicone hose and replace with an aluminum 90 degree pipe. Mount your IAT into the aluminum pipe.. and the nozzle a little distance back. Dont overcomplicate it
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I have a Twin Turbo setup running 6 PSI of boost and my Meth/H20 injector is just downstream of the MAF. As I understand it you really don't want the MAF sensor to see the affects of the Meth system. I have a custom tank in place of the old washer tank and the pump is inside the passenger fender. See pic below:
Typically one would use stainless or plastic for a tank. Anodized aluminum fittings also fail in the thread areas.
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I have a Twin Turbo setup running 6 PSI of boost and my Meth/H20 injector is just downstream of the MAF. As I understand it you really don't want the MAF sensor to see the affects of the Meth system. I have a custom tank in place of the old washer tank and the pump is inside the passenger fender. See pic below:
