LPE Supercharger
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From: Spring Grove Il
Re: LPE Supercharger (HIGHRPM)
Yes as far as my painter is concerned the ACI products are good. They came out needing little to no work before priming and painting. I seen the rocker panels and they look great on the car. I have the hood and rear wing only, a friend is looking at the front ground effects for his.
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From: Beebe AR
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Re: LPE Supercharger (21STCENTURYMUSCLECAR)
#1 The reliability on the roots blower is superior.
#2 The power band is more linear vs centrifigal curves that seem to peak towards the top of the RPM range so while it is superior on the Dyno how superior is it on the street and or track? I have not seen any out standing times on the ATI cars just big Dyno #s ala Supras.
#3 The stock bottom end on the Vette has some reliability issues above the 500 rwhp mark.
#4 Do ATI blowers offer a 3 yr warranty on the motor and drive train? Magnusson DOES.
#5 The ugly hood issue is subjective as we have sold 2 of the aftermarket hoods to NON SUPERCHARGED customers.
I would give up some peak HP on the dyno for a more reliable
everyday driver with a Warranty!
[Modified by 21STCENTURYMUSCLECAR, 8:13 PM 9/18/2002]
#2 The power band is more linear vs centrifigal curves that seem to peak towards the top of the RPM range so while it is superior on the Dyno how superior is it on the street and or track? I have not seen any out standing times on the ATI cars just big Dyno #s ala Supras.
#3 The stock bottom end on the Vette has some reliability issues above the 500 rwhp mark.
#4 Do ATI blowers offer a 3 yr warranty on the motor and drive train? Magnusson DOES.
#5 The ugly hood issue is subjective as we have sold 2 of the aftermarket hoods to NON SUPERCHARGED customers.
I would give up some peak HP on the dyno for a more reliable
everyday driver with a Warranty!
[Modified by 21STCENTURYMUSCLECAR, 8:13 PM 9/18/2002]
Anyone reviewing this post should look at the the numbers being compared at http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zerothread?id=390278 -- they speak for themself.
Also for an additional $50 I did get a 3 year warranty on the ATI system which still makes it considerably less expensive than the Magneson with hood. You are right -- no warranty on the drive train. But I imagine the warranty that comes with the Magneson only covers failures that can be attributed to the SC.
As far as bottom end problems I have not seen the problems you speak of, in fact most of what I have seen indicates that the stock bottom end can handle 600hp without problems. No flames intended.
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From: Frisco Texas
Re: LPE Supercharger (Mad_Dog)
No flames taken, but I would love to see a long term comparison test of reliability between the 2 products, I know were my $$ would be.
Is there anyone out there that has any Qtr mile times on Street tires better than 11.7s @ 126 with the forementioned ATI???
There are many other factors in making the decision between a ATI and
a Magnusson but peak HP #s would not do it for me.
Have you driven both?Another thought is we can arrange for some spirited
street driving or track competition between a Magnusson and an ATI.
No flames intended,
J.P.
[Modified by NOEXCUSES, 10:02 PM 9/19/2002]
Is there anyone out there that has any Qtr mile times on Street tires better than 11.7s @ 126 with the forementioned ATI???
There are many other factors in making the decision between a ATI and
a Magnusson but peak HP #s would not do it for me.
Have you driven both?Another thought is we can arrange for some spirited
street driving or track competition between a Magnusson and an ATI.
No flames intended,
J.P.
[Modified by NOEXCUSES, 10:02 PM 9/19/2002]
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St. Jude Donor '11
Re: LPE Supercharger (NOEXCUSES)
..and another point is, the LPE supercharger looks 1000% better than an ATI! :smash: :smash: :smash: :smash: :smash: :smash:
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St. Jude Donor '14
Re: LPE Supercharger (racer44)
I've seen an LPE installed Magnusson blower, and all I can say is, it looks like it belongs there. It's a very clean setup. I also think it will add to the resale value of the car.
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From: Elmhurst, IL (West Suburb of Chicago) & Home of MEGA Horsepower
St. Jude Donor '06
Re: LPE Supercharger (21STCENTURYMUSCLECAR)
[QUOTE]#1 The reliability on the roots blower is superior.
#2 The power band is more linear vs centrifigal curves that seem to peak towards the top of the RPM range so while it is superior on the Dyno how superior is it on the street and or track? I have not seen any out standing times on the ATI cars just big Dyno #s ala Supras.
#3 The stock bottom end on the Vette has some reliability issues above the 500 rwhp mark.
#4 Do ATI blowers offer a 3 yr warranty on the motor and drive train? Magnusson DOES.
#5 The ugly hood issue is subjective as we have sold 2 of the aftermarket hoods to NON SUPERCHARGED customers.
I would give up some peak HP on the dyno for a more reliable
everyday driver with a Warranty!
JMO,
John Page,
Twenty First Century Muscle Cars
Authorized Lingenfelter Performance Dealer
LPE/Magnusson Supercharger Dealer
972-417-7177
Nitrovette
ps-Not to mention that you will get 100% better resale value with the LPE name backing you up!
#2 The power band is more linear vs centrifigal curves that seem to peak towards the top of the RPM range so while it is superior on the Dyno how superior is it on the street and or track? I have not seen any out standing times on the ATI cars just big Dyno #s ala Supras.
#3 The stock bottom end on the Vette has some reliability issues above the 500 rwhp mark.
#4 Do ATI blowers offer a 3 yr warranty on the motor and drive train? Magnusson DOES.
#5 The ugly hood issue is subjective as we have sold 2 of the aftermarket hoods to NON SUPERCHARGED customers.
I would give up some peak HP on the dyno for a more reliable
everyday driver with a Warranty!
JMO,
John Page,
Twenty First Century Muscle Cars
Authorized Lingenfelter Performance Dealer
LPE/Magnusson Supercharger Dealer
972-417-7177
Nitrovette
ps-Not to mention that you will get 100% better resale value with the LPE name backing you up!
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From: Beebe AR
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Re: LPE Supercharger (NOEXCUSES)
Have you driven both?Another thought is we can arrange for some spirited street driving or track competition between a Magnusson and an ATI.
[Modified by NOEXCUSES, 10:02 PM 9/19/2002]
[Modified by NOEXCUSES, 10:02 PM 9/19/2002]
It was a tough decision for me to pick between the two products and only time will tell if I made the right decision. Best of luck with your business venture with LPE -- no one could argue with that decision.:D:D
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From: Beebe AR
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Re: LPE Supercharger (nowalks2000)
I have a procharger with about 8.5 lbs of boost it dynoed at 488 rwh
i get no possitive manifold pressure till 3700 rpm and at 6000 shes all done.
i get no possitive manifold pressure till 3700 rpm and at 6000 shes all done.
Melting Slicks
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From: North Liberty IA
St. Jude Donor '07
Re: LPE Supercharger
Ugly hood? :confused:
I take serious issue with that! :D
Ya call this ugly?
Hell, I LOVE this hood!
I take serious issue with that! :D
Ya call this ugly?
Hell, I LOVE this hood!
As for the ATI not looking good, I guess I'd have to differ. Looks great to me.
Particularly when you're a dozen car lengths ahead :)
Tom
[Modified by tscales, 10:59 AM 9/20/2002]
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From: Forney TX
Re: LPE Supercharger (Flintstone)
Particularly when you're a dozen car lengths ahead :)
Tom
C'mon Tom, that is so not the case.
F
Tom
C'mon Tom, that is so not the case.
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Melting Slicks
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Re: LPE Supercharger
C'mon Tom, that is so not the case.
F
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LT1pwrd'94: We must have posted at the same time or I didn't notice yours, so I'll edit this one. I really didn't mean to offend. The Magnuson is an outstanding choice -- I just didn't want a different hood. My car is very stealth. From the outside, there is nothing that makes it look like it puts out more power than stock.
As for the dynos, nothing yet. Mike's still working on the last things. I'm driving it, but pretty gentle to do the break-in, then he'll finish. The belt slips. When done, it will be 11-12 pounds of boost, so Mike's guessing 600+ rwhp, I'm hoping closer to 700.
Tom
Tom
[Modified by tscales, 12:49 PM 9/20/2002]
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From: Houston TX
Re: LPE Supercharger (vetteboy2k)
How come Flintstone's hoods lines look more flowwing than Johnno's??? Is it just the pic, paint color, angle???
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Re: LPE Supercharger (tscales)
ATI for me... It's all about the power, ATI gives you more. I personally could care less about warranty, as long as the actual supercharger itself has a warranty that's fine with me.
I have nothing against the Magnacharger it looks like a great kit and people are having great results with it... :cheers:
I have nothing against the Magnacharger it looks like a great kit and people are having great results with it... :cheers:
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From: Overwhelmed as one would be, placed in my position.... DFW, TX
St. Jude Donor '05
Re: LPE Supercharger (Burk)
While I'm sure both procucts are great, two things concern me:
1) I'm not a huge fan of the hood. I prefer my car in sleeper mode without the bog hood. I happen to like the graceful curve to the stock hood. Of course, everyone has their own prefereances, so I'm not going to flame it. It looks ok- just not for me, IMHO.
2) The lack of an IC in the Texas heat. This shouldn't be a huge issue, but it still concerns me.
Having said that: I love the idea of dropping my car off a LPE for ANYTHING. Based on what I've seen around the forum and what I saw last weekend at their shop, I would GLADLY leave my baby there. If I were seriously considering installing a S/C, my decision would be EXTREMELY difficult. More peak HP? Reliability? LPE name and tuning? Sheesh. :crazy:
I will say this though: I saw a H/C and catback 99 put down 394 HP last weekend for about $4k out the door . I know where MY money will end up going. :yesnod:
1) I'm not a huge fan of the hood. I prefer my car in sleeper mode without the bog hood. I happen to like the graceful curve to the stock hood. Of course, everyone has their own prefereances, so I'm not going to flame it. It looks ok- just not for me, IMHO.
2) The lack of an IC in the Texas heat. This shouldn't be a huge issue, but it still concerns me.
Having said that: I love the idea of dropping my car off a LPE for ANYTHING. Based on what I've seen around the forum and what I saw last weekend at their shop, I would GLADLY leave my baby there. If I were seriously considering installing a S/C, my decision would be EXTREMELY difficult. More peak HP? Reliability? LPE name and tuning? Sheesh. :crazy:
I will say this though: I saw a H/C and catback 99 put down 394 HP last weekend for about $4k out the door . I know where MY money will end up going. :yesnod:
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From: Addison TX
Re: LPE Supercharger (Umrswimr)
David,
I understand your opinion of the hood, we can also do a
Stage 1, 2 or 3 Twin Turbo and you can retain your stock hood
as well as the "stock like" idle and a 2 yr Warranty.
Thanks,
John Page
Twenty First Century Muscle Cars
972-417-7177
I understand your opinion of the hood, we can also do a
Stage 1, 2 or 3 Twin Turbo and you can retain your stock hood
as well as the "stock like" idle and a 2 yr Warranty.
Thanks,
John Page
Twenty First Century Muscle Cars
972-417-7177
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Re: LPE Supercharger (Umrswimr)
I agree, if you want 420-440rwhp and the highest reliability go with a H/C/H setup....why bother with pumps, overheating and belts and you can use any hood you want. The Magnuson will only give a stock LS1 410-420rwhp.... not the best deal for the $$$ and reliablility. If on the other hand if its power your after a supercharged H/C/H properly setup is the way to go. I've seen Forum cars w/Magnuson H/C/H making reliable 465-475rwhp and its seems they could approach 500rwhp(overheating may be an issue at those power levels) and ATI cars that are making over 625rwhp........so if reliable power/$$$$ is your main concern I would go with H/C/H. :cheers: