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Old 03-05-2019, 10:22 PM
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Putting this for my notes:

Things to get before Jam Cam install (pre-Supercharged):

1.Decide on Harmonic Dampener/Balancer----This is tough!
2. Melling 10295 Oil Pump
3. Timing Chain- Bret aka BlownBlueZ- Elite Chain Drive
4. Timing Chain Dampener
5. Straub Trunnion kit
6. IW Pin Kit
7. Genuine GM 12589016 Camshaft Retainer


I think these 5 things are necessary so far from what I have researched
2 Parts down!......(maybe 3)

2 questions for you guys.....It just occurred to me that if I am having a shop do the entire cam install etc...I would not need a crank pinning kit since they would certainly already have one there and that I would just need to supply the Harmonic Balancer. Does this seem right?

Second, Do I need to buy bolts for the Genuine GM 12589016 Camshaft Retainer that I just bought. I am not sure if its countersunk or not?

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Old 03-05-2019, 10:39 PM
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if you bought an innovators west balancer and their crank pin kit then yes keep the pin kit, it is specific to innovators west balancers and completely different than the standard pin kits... if your cam retainer plate uses countersunk torx bolts then yes you will have to buy those, just wait until you get it and see which bolts it uses

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Old 03-05-2019, 10:55 PM
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if you bought an innovators west balancer and their crank pin kit then yes keep the pin kit, it is specific to innovators west balancers and completely different than the standard pin kits... if your cam retainer plate uses countersunk torx bolts then yes you will have to buy those, just wait until you get it and see which bolts it uses
I am going with the IW Balancer after careful thought and the help you and the others provided. (can't thank you guys enough). I have not bought a crank pin kit yet. My installer is an authorized dealer for Innovators West and I figured that they would have the kit. Did I assume this correctly? hahah

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maybe just ask your installer to make sure they keep the iw kit in stock but definitely get that instead of the normal ones supplied in blower kits

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Old 03-11-2019, 10:27 PM
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I'm looking at Trunnion kits right now and see prices all over the map, especially on Ebay. Some seem sketchy. 50-80 dollar difference and people using the same pictures for high and lower priced. What gives?

Should I just go with BTR site or Summit, something trustworthy or are the ones on Ebay and such the same thing, but cheaper?
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Updating with some more parts:


Things to get before Jam Cam install (pre-Supercharged):

1.Decide on Harmonic Dampener/Balancer----Innovators West 8 rib 10 Percent Overdrive A&A Proprietary
2. Melling 10295 Oil Pump
3. Timing Chain- Bret aka BlownBlueZ- Elite Chain Drive
4. Timing Chain Dampener
5. Straub/Smith Bros. Trunnion kit
6. IW Pin Kit
7. Genuine GM 12589016 Camshaft Retainer
8. Camshaft Lock Plate, LS 3 Bolt
9. Serpentine Belts 2 Gates K060802 and K040420RPM
10. ARP Cam Bolt Kit

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Old 03-16-2019, 12:06 AM
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Trunnion kit down....Bought what is supposedly a Smith Bros. Bronze off Ebay (Seller said its 100 percent Smith Bros.). Hopefully I won't have to send it back. Strange how the price varies so much for these kits on Ebay.....Anyone ever buy one off ebay?
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never bought a trunnion kit on ebay (got mine from Bret) but I have bought other parts, I usually check to see if the seller is an authorized dealer of whatever part it is that I'm looking for to avoid getting a knockoff... most of those bronze bushing kits look nearly identical except for che
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never bought a trunnion kit on ebay (got mine from Bret) but I have bought other parts, I usually check to see if the seller is an authorized dealer of whatever part it is that I'm looking for to avoid getting a knockoff... most of those bronze bushing kits look nearly identical except for che
Damnit! Why did I not think to ask Bret. Im an idiot. My wife bought it actually.. hahah

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never bought a trunnion kit on ebay (got mine from Bret) but I have bought other parts, I usually check to see if the seller is an authorized dealer of whatever part it is that I'm looking for to avoid getting a knockoff... most of those bronze bushing kits look nearly identical except for che
Yeah, I am definitely going to send it back just to be sure. The seller said it was Smith Bros at first, then he said it was PRW. I looked at PRW Industries and it looks shady to me. No interest in dealing with crap parts and false advertising. Too many scammers out there!

Back it will go.
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Trunnion kit down....Bought what is supposedly a Smith Bros. Bronze off Ebay (Seller said its 100 percent Smith Bros.). Hopefully I won't have to send it back. Strange how the price varies so much for these kits on Ebay.....Anyone ever buy one off ebay?
Could you post up a link to the kit you got?
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Could you post up a link to the kit you got?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevy-LS1-L...cAAOSwZtlZ6jXV


When I get it, I am going to see exactly where it is from and then send it back. Hopefully it will help others on here.
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Thank you.
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Old 03-18-2019, 06:37 PM
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Just got the PRW Trunnions in the mail. They are strangely packed with the Bronze Bushing all in one bag and not in individual trays that I normally see. I am definitely sending these back. If anyone wants pictures before I send back for reference, let me know. My wife was told that these would be Smith Bros and he sent me PRW. Crazy.
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Old 03-20-2019, 03:36 PM
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Alright. Now I got the correct Smith Bros. kit on order.
Also picked up Timing Chain Dampener-the LS2/LS3 12588670 as I have a 2004 Z06 and according to my research of posts on here, it should fit since its a 2004. (fingers crossed)
Also got the ARP LSx CAM BOLT KIT 134-1003
I got the CHEVROLET PERFORMANCE CAM RETAINER BOLT 11561455 ( for countersunk style plates)
And also the Camshaft Lock Plate, LS 3 Bolt

Getting close....Waiting on Uncle Sam the tax man to buy me the Balancer. LOLOL

1. Harmonic Dampener/Balancer----Innovators West 8 rib 10 Percent Overdrive A&A Proprietary-Bret
2. Melling 10295 Oil Pump
3. Timing Chain- Bret aka BlownBlueZ- Elite Chain Drive
4. Timing Chain Dampener
5. Straub/Smith Bros. Trunnion kit
6. IW Pin Kit
7. Genuine GM 12589016 Camshaft Retainer
8. Camshaft Lock Plate, LS 3 Bolt
9. Serpentine Belts 2 Gates K060802 and K040420RPM
10. ARP Cam Bolt Kit
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If you have a LS1/LS6 block this is the one you need...
https://www.briantooleyracing.com/ls...-88958607.html
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Originally Posted by Smoken1 View Post
If you have a LS1/LS6 block this is the one you need...
https://www.briantooleyracing.com/ls...-88958607.html
Check this post out....Did I mess up?

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...post1562492731
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Originally Posted by Smoken1 View Post
If you have a LS1/LS6 block this is the one you need...
https://www.briantooleyracing.com/ls...-88958607.html
I also found this post:

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...post1586092464
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My car is an 02 LS1 so I used the BTR one.. The links you posted are 04 car's so that may be right for your car

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Check this post out....Did I mess up?

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...post1562492731
If you read the description on the BTR one posted above it states "2004 Blocks should be checked for spacing as damper part number 12588670 may be needed." It seems as thought 2004 blocks could have either spacing based on where they fell in the production schedule.
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