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Thanks for the links! I was about to go with the C5-R and now I see that BlownBlue offers a great alternative!
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Old 02-24-2019, 09:34 PM
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Putting this for my notes:

Things to get before Jam Cam install (pre-Supercharged):

1.Decide on Harmonic Dampener/Balancer----This is tough!
2. Melling 10295 Oil Pump
3. Timing Chain- Bret aka BlownBlueZ- Elite Chain Drive
4. Timing Chain Dampener
5. Straub Trunnion kit
6. IW Pin Kit
7. Genuine GM 12589016 Camshaft Retainer


I think these 5 things are necessary so far from what I have researched

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Old 02-26-2019, 07:27 PM
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I am still debating on this Harmonic Dampener!!!! I am leaning towards the A&A Innovator West 8-rib proprietary. What do you guys think? I am driving myself insane with this. LOLOL
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Old 02-26-2019, 11:17 PM
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I only got the IW 8 rib for the overdrive. I'm only using 6 ribs. I guess the decision would be your end goals. Are you going to be increasing power down the road that would require 8 ribs. I make 635 on a 6 rib belt and that got me a 10.99 quarter mile, granted I'm spinning the blower to the moon. If your not looking for an overdrive balancer, I'd get a 6 rib personally. That's just me though. You'll be fine either way.
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Old 02-26-2019, 11:36 PM
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I only got the IW 8 rib for the overdrive. I'm only using 6 ribs. I guess the decision would be your end goals. Are you going to be increasing power down the road that would require 8 ribs. I make 635 on a 6 rib belt and that got me a 10.99 quarter mile, granted I'm spinning the blower to the moon. If your not looking for an overdrive balancer, I'd get a 6 rib personally. That's just me though. You'll be fine either way.
Did you get the one that you can use later with the Secondary Drive?
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Old 02-27-2019, 12:34 AM
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So if I get the JUST the 8 rib Harmonic Balancer and not the other pulleys for alternator, tensioner, etc.... I would be good to go and I could get my cam in. Then upgrade the rest of the pulleys to 8 in the future? Is this correct?

I assume you would just run a 6 rib belt on the Harmonic Balancer as the rest of the pulleys would be stock for now. So in other words, for now, I would need nothing but an 8 inch Harmonic Balancer which I will have pinned....
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Old 02-27-2019, 12:36 AM
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Also would I be messing anything/losing power if I ran just an 8 Rib Overdrive Harmonic Balancer in my NA cam setup as I am not going to supercharge just yet.....
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Old 02-27-2019, 12:38 AM
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A&A also has a standard 6 rib that's reasonably priced. I would have bought one but went with IW 10% od, 8 rib. If I ever decide to go full 8 rib on everything I'll have to sell the balancer I have though which sucks but oh well.
Why would you have to sell the balancer? Could you just upgrade the rest of your pulleys to 8 rib and keep the balancer?
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Old 02-27-2019, 01:24 AM
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After reading the Q&A A&A thread, I realized that I probably would never get to the level of needing a Secondary Drive.
I saw that Josh from A&A mentioned these 2 Balancers.
Putting this for my notes:


Possible Balancers to consider
C2501 or TFS-19005

Would there be any benefit to go with ATI or any other brand? I really can't find any pros and cons for each.

I'm probably overthinking all of this. hahaha
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Old 02-27-2019, 08:33 AM
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Why would you have to sell the balancer? Could you just upgrade the rest of your pulleys to 8 rib and keep the balancer?
I didnt get A&As IW balancer that's made to work with all there stuff. I havent really looked into it to see if itll work with other companies or not.
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Old 02-27-2019, 08:34 AM
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Did you get the one that you can use later with the Secondary Drive?
No I didnt
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Old 02-27-2019, 10:23 AM
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I ultimately did the A&A IW balancer w/ secondary drive because I didn't want to have to remove the crank pulley again... not a small or easy job. I knew I was approaching the limits of what the 6 rib could reliably and consistently do. I jumped in on my kit during the black Friday sale, so it was easier to justify I guess.
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Old 02-27-2019, 07:07 PM
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Beating the dead horse here. Would this be the equivalent to the Innovator West 8 rib-10 Percent overdrive?

Another possible Balancer-8 rib 10% overdrive- PowerBond Supercharger Performance Harmonic Balancers PBO81117SC10
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Also, would there be any issues running an 8 rib 10% overdrive balancer with my cam NA until I get the A&A supercharger kit?
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Old 02-27-2019, 09:09 PM
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For my notes.....Getting closer to a final decision.....

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That Jegs 8-rib balancer is 8" OD, but it won't clear my newer 2pc bracket unless you have converted the SC bracket over to 8-rib completely. The Jegs balancer will stick out closer to the front of car and make contact with my 2pc bracket near the auto tensioner.

If you have the older 1pc bracket then it will clear.

I usually just have guys run the C2501 which is SFI-spec and stock diameter, and sticks out the same distance as a stock 6-rib balancer. You should still be able to make your 700rwhp goal with that and a 3.4" since you have cam, LTs and meth going on it.
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Old 02-27-2019, 09:19 PM
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Ok, its down to these two. I read the entire A&A Question and answer thread and either the Summit Racing C2501 or TFS-19005 would be best for my setup that I want and the two that are highly recommended.
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Old 02-28-2019, 01:25 AM
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Also, would there be any issues running an 8 rib 10% overdrive balancer with my cam NA until I get the A&A supercharger kit?
No, itll only spin your accessories faster. Then once you get the blower itll spin that faster.
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Adding two more items to list: IW Pin Kit
Cam Retainer Plate

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