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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 07:17 PM
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I bought a 02 zo6 stock for $32,000.00. What I was wondering for the same amount could you buy any car that could beat it on a road course? The car would still have to be a daily driver and have longevity. If so what car and what mods?

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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 09:45 PM
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Another Z06...
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 09:47 PM
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Another Z06...
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 10:33 PM
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Not at the drag strip either.
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 11:23 PM
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Last summer a local vette club had a common car chalenge. It consisted of two cars. A 2002 ZO-6 and a (i hate to say it) 2003 Nissan 350 Z. Both manual (ofcorse the ZO-6) All day long we took turns running both cars. The ending is not good. The end result was the best guy in both cars beat his best time in the vette with the 350 Z. Ouch!!! That hurts. Watch out for em.
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 12:28 AM
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I don't understand that one. 350 is heavier by 300 lbs, over 100 HP less and pulls .88 on the skid pad.

If the 350 Z out performs the z06- why does the C6 (not as good as a Z06) destroy the 350Z in the new Road and Track "Best all Around Sports Car"?

Inquiring minds.........

Here is the quote fron R&T...


All things considered, the Chevrolet Corvette has no real weaknesses and many strengths. It possesses world-class performance, a high level of comfort and dashing good looks. And it’s available for nearly half the price of a Porsche Carrera S. The latest and greatest version of the Corvette is a bona fide world-beater, and America’s sports car is now back in its rightful place atop the sports-car mountain.


Here is the 350 Z:

The 350Z fell down at, of all places, the racetrack. The Z negotiated certain parts of the track efficiently, but wheezed through many of the others, as it posted the slowest lap times of the group, even with a former factory Z-car driver behind the wheel.

“The Z understeered in mid-turn, and didn’t provide good balance or speed coming out of corners. And when you can’t get a good jump out of corners, your speed on the straights suffers,” Millen noted.

We discovered that the car also leans noticeably, and the steering feels slow, making it seem as if you’re always trying to catch up to the corner. But kudos to the Z’s structural rigidity — it was the bright light in an otherwise bleak handling world. Nissan’s FM platform, which also sees duty in a luxury sedan and sport utility, is rigid and communicative, possessing the kind of firmness reserved for...well, a sport utility. But this solidity comes at a price: curb weight. The 350Z is the second-heaviest of the lot at 3370 lb.

But that’s where the 35th Anniversary Z’s added power comes into play. The retuned 3.5-liter V-6 puts out 300 bhp (13 more than the base Z) and 260 lb.-ft. of torque, enabling the car to run to 60 mph in 5.6 sec.

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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 01:05 AM
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i would bet it had an aftermarket turbo and suspension mods, which more than likely puts it out of the price range this thread is speaking of. my ex-g/f had an 03 nissan 350 and it was slower than my 99 gt stang. i have absolutely raped the 2 350zs that tried me in the z06. and if we hit the twisties it would have only gotten worse.
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 01:46 AM
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if anybody makes the claim a stock 350Z Nissan will whip a Z06 in any category at all--dude, they need to put the crack pipe down!
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Yeah really! On an autocross course a C4 will beat up a 350Z. Last year when the Honda S2000 was in B-stock it had its way with the 350Z all day long. So would most Boxsters. The 350Z now looks pretty good in B-stock because they pulled all the hot cars out. I would take a C4 or Honda 2000 over a 350Z for that kind of course. For track purposes I'm not sure how the 350Z would compare to the above. But against a Z06.

I think you need to get more time in these cars to do a head to head test so you can learn the best way to use the cars performance features. I went from a 92-C4 (with FE1 suspension, HP+ pads, and Nitto RII tires) to an 02-Z06 for autocross. I have about 4 events in the Z now. I'm still quicker in the C4. The Z06 is a big jump from a base C4 or any other car I've ever owned. You can't just jump in a car like that, spend part of a day driving it, and then decide it is good or bad, faster or slower, than another car. It takes a lot of seat time for me to get adjusted between 2 Corvettes. Let alone swapping between a 350Z and a Z06. I plan on this whole season being nothing but a learning experience in the Z06.

Just my 5 cents worth and not trying to be a Vette/Z06 bigot or anything. They're great cars if you can learn how to drive them. They're horrible if you can't manage their characteristics.

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Originally Posted by FRBvetteguy
Last summer a local vette club had a common car chalenge. It consisted of two cars. A 2002 ZO-6 and a (i hate to say it) 2003 Nissan 350 Z. Both manual (ofcorse the ZO-6) All day long we took turns running both cars. The ending is not good. The end result was the best guy in both cars beat his best time in the vette with the 350 Z. Ouch!!! That hurts. Watch out for em.
you very funny guy!
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by FRBvetteguy
Last summer a local vette club had a common car chalenge. It consisted of two cars. A 2002 ZO-6 and a (i hate to say it) 2003 Nissan 350 Z. Both manual (ofcorse the ZO-6) All day long we took turns running both cars. The ending is not good. The end result was the best guy in both cars beat his best time in the vette with the 350 Z. Ouch!!! That hurts. Watch out for em.
It's Z06.

I've killed 350Z with my Z06 at the local autox course.
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 01:03 PM
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Guy's guy's guy's... It makes me sick to eaven think of that day. It wasnt me driving. One guy in the Corvette club who always beats everybody else at the common car chalenge. This one man, has a 94' Vette that he always runs when he can, which I think is every event. This one man made best time in the Z0-6, beat out the other 40 drivers. In haste I say that he did beat his own best time in the Vette with the 350Z. It pains me to say it. I do believe that in the total range of a ZO-6 that it can and will defeat all others. I dont no. Just dont hate me for saying it cuz I do believe the 350Z sucks, I was not impresed at all.
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 01:38 PM
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Yes, practically anything will beat a Z06 if you don"t know how to drive it. I only have about 8 autox events under my seat belt and there are plenty of cars (miata, porche, S2000, BMW,C4s) that regularly hand me my a$$. A Z06 is a great car, but it takes driver skill to meet its potential. Drivers training courses help immensely.
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 03:06 PM
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Ofcourse,anything can be beaten.
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 03:18 PM
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For 32K there isn't a factory car new or used that can touch it on the road race course. That is my opinionon and worth what you paid for it.

The Z06 is difficult to beat for the money; classic Chevy economics.
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I loved running down 350's in my WS6!
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by EB03Z
if anybody makes the claim a stock 350Z Nissan will whip a Z06 in any category at all--dude, they need to put the crack pipe down!
That is so true. There is no comparison at all.
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by FRBvetteguy
Last summer a local vette club had a common car chalenge. It consisted of two cars. A 2002 ZO-6 and a (i hate to say it) 2003 Nissan 350 Z. Both manual (ofcorse the ZO-6) All day long we took turns running both cars. The ending is not good. The end result was the best guy in both cars beat his best time in the vette with the 350 Z. Ouch!!! That hurts. Watch out for em.
Dont understand this one..before I bought 2003 bone stock z06.had a 2004 mustang mach-1..raced 2004 z350 3 times straight line.mach-1 took him by 1/2 to 1 car length all three times...traded mach-1 for 2003 Z06...the mach is fun but not even close in exceleration
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 05:40 PM
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I never lost to a mustang Gt in my 350z. I whooped up on C4's all day long on the street and at the autocross track too.... and I was on street tires (S02's) compared to the 3 guys in C4's on race tires.

However, my Z did have a few mods. Intake/Exhaust/Headers/Hi Flow cats/Pulley/Plenum/Light weight 18" wheels. So that might have helped . I sold it to a good buddy of mine who is trapping 105mph with it down at sea level. I'm in the mountains (5280ft), so no point in going to the drag strip. My 99 C5 was trapping around 105mph before mods, so don't let those little V6's fool you.

But I will say this, although the 350Z is a sweet car, its not a Z06, and that is why I sold it and bought my new toy.

$32k builds a MEAN 2002 T/A or camaro. You can also have a 500rwhp Cobra for that price. $32k builds a pretty sick Evo or STi. I'm not sure if your question meant stock for stock, or what you could get with $32,000. You can also build a turbo 350Z with $32,000. All of these examples are of used cars, but all newer than an 02 Z06.
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