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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 01:31 AM
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 11:38 AM
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A few samples of the headlights this company produces. Each has a different style of how the projector looks mounted, ie, the first one looks like it's rivited in. Which ones looks best?

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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 11:57 AM
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I kind of like the way the Citreon Lights look...
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 12:00 PM
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I kind of like the way the Citreon Lights look...
I also like the Peugeot 206.
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 12:13 PM
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Quality is the question at hand. The cost for a pair of new Bosch Bi Xenon projectors is around $240, and the ballasts $230. That's about as cheap as they come, ask the guys that drive BMW's. There are other ballasts that are available that have good warranties for much cheaper, but then there's the quality question. There's cheaper projectors as well, but same problem. I'd like to offer a few different models for those wanting good lighting and those wanting the best. I'll see if i can get a deal with bosch or hella based upon quantity.
Not if you work for Bosch and get an employee discount like ME!!

Can you send me all the part numbers for the different components you've been talking about and I'll check the prices?

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off topic but that fact is depressing coming from a car that there was like 11k ever sold in the country, only 6k of which where turbos (mkiv supra)

back on topic though

id be really interested, i want some better light output
Yeah, and what's even MORE depressing is the fact that you TOTALLED one of those "6k ever sold in this country" cars
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 12:15 PM
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I like the Citroen Saxo
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 01:10 PM
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That's great! I'll get the part numbers as soon as i get home. Thanks!
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 01:14 PM
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Looks like most people are wanting the more simple look, unlike the top left BMW light. I was asked if i wanted the turn signal built in, as the oem unit they're looking at is the first they've seen without one. What do you think? It's about an extra $20-30 dollars.
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 01:52 PM
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Forgive me if this sounds a bit out of the loop... But I just want to ask a couple of questions regarding where you are in terms of the design of the housings.

First. Does it look like the majority want a bi-xenon setup housed in a single projector? ( I like this idea as it provides the best lighting and saves on weight )

Second. Assuming that the answer to the first question is yes and you can cram in the largest projector that the space will allow what do you think will look the best next to it (where the current high beams are) ?

I have one of the "9006 HID in stock housing" kits that came with 6000K bulbs from Rev-Extreme and I love the color of my lights at night. Very easy on my eyes.
The last question is what do you think will be the Kelvin rating of the HIDs that your producer might include as a part of this complete lighting solution?

Lastly, SFengineer, you rock for taking this project on. Thanks
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 03:19 PM
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Bullet,

thanks for compliment!

I'd like to go with Bi-xenon, it just makes since to use the same bulb for both high and low beams. I put a posting earlier in regards to what should go on the other side where the high beam currently is on our cars. If you have any ideas, let me know. You never know with the technology we have today....Just try and make it cost effective.

As far as kelvin rating, i'd like to run just 4200k, the same as all production BMWs, Benz's, etc. I believe up to 6k is legal, and I don't like higher than that, a few reasons why

1 - The more blue the light, the more it's absorbed by the road, but not reflective surfaces. Therefore, some things are really bright(signs, markers, cars) others not(the road!). It confuses your retnas, so they dialate and shrink constantly, causing them become strained quickly

2 - Blue light tends to "bleed" above their cutoffs. If you have a razor sharp cutoff with 4200k, it'll look fuzzy with 6000k, and horrible with 8000k.

3 - it's more efficient. I'm not sure of the specs, but i'm pretty sure a 4200k bulb puts out twice the usable light as a 6.7k bulb. Switching from 6.7 to 4.2 made all the difference with my setup.

I am offered a good number of choices of kelvin rating tho, i believe 4.2k, 5k, 6k, 6.7k, and 8k. If purchased with the headlights, they'll give me a really good deal. PM me and i'll fill you in.
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 03:52 PM
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SF Engineer,

I am also interested in a Bi-Xenon 4,300k set of lights.

Is a H4 bulb the way to go?



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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob 99
I like the Citroen Saxo
minus the blinker.. I agree with almost everybody else, the bi-zenon is a must and i would also reccomend the brass gear as somebody said eariler. Cant wait...you already have one pair sold to ME!!!!!
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 07:37 PM
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I would also be very interested in the headlight housing to go along with my existing HID kit.

Let me know how much and when they're ready.



Maybe some people who show thier cars would like a strobe in the empty half..... or is that too ricey????

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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 11:03 PM
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Peugeot 206 are hot

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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 01:15 AM
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SFengineer -

any chance you could come up with a decent fixed (non-popup) HID setup?
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 09:00 AM
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SFengineer,

I kind of prefer the looks of the Peugeot 206 myself

I think you should place the largest Bi-Xenon projector that you can fit in the housing along with a Halogen projector lens next to it for symmetry. Otherwise it would look rather strange, don't you think?

I would also be interested in a non-popup version if they could engineer one that looked decent
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 11:21 AM
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SF, I already have the C5R lights with 6000k H.I.D. lights in them. What type of upgrade can you offer me? Mostly interested in a better projector. Can you help?
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 11:34 AM
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No offense to anyone but let's try to keep this applicable to the pop up replacement issue. SFengineer has picked up the ball on this and interest is definitely there for stock replacements. Don't want to overwhelm him with other options at this early stage.
Pop ups first and fixed maybe later, if possible.
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 01:02 PM
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No offense to anyone but let's try to keep this applicable to the pop up replacement issue. SFengineer has picked up the ball on this and interest is definitely there for stock replacements. Don't want to overwhelm him with other options at this early stage.
Pop ups first and fixed maybe later, if possible.
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 01:22 PM
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I love the way the Citroen Saxo looks. If you could fit that into the popup housing (without that third turn signal light/DRL) and make a kit that's simple to install with no cutting, welding or splicing, you could sell 2000 in no time. I'd buy one as soon as I see the final product and know that its of good quality with perfect fit and finish. I had hoped that Granbichus would someday make a kit using his design but that fell through, then Mray left us hanging over and over. If I had the skills and nohow, I'd do it myself because I know they would sell. Good luck and let us know when you have a working production model.
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