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Hi Z_OH_6 -

I do not feel 2nd class. I don't look at the year or generation as a symbol of the cars place in some percieved heirarchy.

The generation and year simply catagorizes the technology of the given car.

It is human nature (IMO) to want to believe that yours "is the bestest".

Time goes on. Progress happens. The emperor has no clothes.

best regards -

mqqn

 

How dare you interrupt my off-topic rants!

Actually.. I tried a few times to keep it on topic... but.. Guilty as charged... I apologize to all.... all but one.

 

Pardon me, but, A. what's the point of buying a sports car unless you are going to hammer it and B. what is the harm of 500hp in a straight highway road where there's no traffic? The only thing you have to worry about with that much power is either traction or going too fast. Accelerating at decent speeds with the active handling/traction control on in a STRAIGHT line really isn't that risky. I think you're exagerrating the risks a bit.

I have driven 500hp turbo'd cars which have a much more violent bump in the powerband than the Z06 to their full extent, and never felt as if I was endangering myself or others. That's because I'm very cautious, careful, and RESPECTFUL of the power.

I don't mean to continue this back-and-forth off topic bantering, just seeing if perhaps I read your posts wrong. There is driving a sports car on the streets safetly while taking advantage of its powerband at APPROPRIATE times, and then there is stupidity. It doesn't mean you can't see what those 500 horses are about on a stretch of good highway. You don't even have to approach the triple digits.

 

Hi Missle -

I was just being a butthead....

best regards -

mqqn

 

Well said my friend mqqn. We are also very fortunate to own Corvettes no matter what year. No other car on the planet has the loyal following and history behind it. When I was eight years old, I knew someday......!
Todd L. Griffith also of CAC mqqn

 

Hi Todd -

Thanks! That's right - "They don't write songs about Volvo's."

I did not know that was you, but I kinda recognize your mods now that you mention it

best regards -

mqqn

 

da da da Little red Volvo............yeah, your right sounds stupid lol!

 

If you bother to read my post I stated that a track was the place to push the Z to its limits. And I added if there was no track a back road with no traffic was the place. Apparently you did read at least part of my posts wrong.

 

Maybe you need to read your own posts.. When I said I got on it when conditions were acceptable, you only said that it wasn't safe, how can one predict potholes, goats and what-not... you said you could never use all 500hp on the street... Now you contradict yourself for this posting... Man... your credability is down the drain... A troll and a hypocrite....... Nice!

Just for your info... I live in a rual area with mostly backroads... this is where I play with WOT... EVEN got an on-ramp to the highway which is the first entrance so no traffic to merge with... but that won't stop your trolling rant... will it.

 

"All but one"? Ouch, that hurt. First you say I should trade my vette in on a toyota or buick, then later say I have no right to contribute to this forum. My profile is out-dated. I gave my '94 coupe to my daughter and bought a 2004 Z06. I don't contribute to the technical posts, although I do read them, because I don't have the expertise to add to them. I have contributed to posts involving stereo systems and home made partitions, because I had the Bose system replaced and I made my own partition.
If you had told me you were a cancer survivor I might have responded differently to some of your comments. I can't imagine what it would be like to be told that I have a disease widely known to end life abruptly. In my own case I was told that diseases in my back had changed life as I know it, and the pain would continue to grow until I was incapacitated. You recovered and from your posts, made the decision to live life to the fullest, raise hell with the system, and put you and others at risk in doing so. Perhaps if I had faced cancer I would have done the same. It's never wise to be judgmental. But with limited days ahead of me I placed a high value on what was left to me and would not wish to view myself in a mirror if I did anything to put others at risk. I would hope that if my attitude was like yours that a member of my family would point me towards counseling and that I would have enough of my mental facilities left to go.
I feel sorry for you. What it must feel like to make a statement like you did that you would speed by me and raise havoc with the system. The last time I heard anything like your posts it was from my 17 year old son who had the day before turned one of my cars into the shape of a pretzel. Initially shaken only one day later he told me in effect that he had faced the last of life's circumstances that he couldn't handle and he was ready for another one of my cars. I drove him to the curve where he had lost control and I hit it at the speed the cop said he was driving. He tried to crawl down on the floor board, but I wanted him to see the difference between an experienced driver and a fuzz butt. Your comments that you can handle anything that comes your way and always leave time for hazards reminds me of his immaturity. Get some help.

 

Charles... I never said I could handle anything that comes my way... That was your interuptation of what I said. Please go back and re-read my posts.
I drive responsively.. I'm no youngster and I know my limits. I also know the limits of the car thru various driving schools and experience.
When you started telling me I can't predict what will happen next and I was an idiot for driving like an irresponsible person... what is one to think. Who can predict what can happen next? you? You don't know my situation or the conditions... you don't even know what my version of going fast is! Yet you chose to lecture me and so on... how should I have reacted?

Yes.. I have a new outlook on life... I sold my 04 Z when I was diagnosed with cancer. I thought I would never do anything fun again.. I had surgery then treatments.. prognosis was good and I bought another Z06. Yes .. I do enjoy my z.. more than ever.. I realize that life is short and you don't know what tomorrow will bring. Damn if I don't give those rear tires a workout... but that doesn't mean I'm endargering the population of NC.
I have been a gearhead for most of my life.. Started driving when I was 15... The Z makes me feel like a kid.. but that doesn't mean I drive like one or that I am terrorizing the world when I have some fun..
Relax.

 

Not that I'm a huge fan of the C6 Z06, I am happy with my C5 Z. However, I've heard this same lame excuse about how power can be easily added to match a C6 Z and how a better driver can make a difference in a race. This is starting to sound like Mustang guys making excuses for their cars. Lets face the facts here, the C6 Z can also be easily modded for a lot more horspepower very cheaply and some of these people with better driving skills than others will also be driving the C6 Z. As far as not being able to put all the power on the street, there are plenty of people that like a nice highway roll to see who's faster.

 

There is no reason to believe that GM did not build a better Z06.. They improved on many areas that the C5 Z was lacking in. I'm not talking about the looks, that is subjective. But preformance wise, materials, etc.. are going to be better.
Its not just the power... but everything that needs to go with it, brakes, handling, etc...
The jury is out on just how much power the new Z can handle with its light-weight maybe not so strong chassis..
I also think the chassis is compromised from the standpoint that it is shared with caddy. There has to be parameters set for NVH that might compromise pure out performance.
I have not had the pleasure of driving one yet... but I will one day... right now the C5 Z06 is still more car than I need... but I'm not complaining...

 

I have no doubt that the C6 ZO6 is a better car than the C5 Z in more than a few ways. The 505hp LS7 is detuned for emissions and drivability. We already see 600hp from a cam and headers. You can get 600hp out of a LS6 just short of supercharging. Imagine a supercharged LS7. You will start to see them shortly. 700-800hp right away with 6psi of boost will be common place. The C6 ZO6 and the technology it brings to the performance aftermarket will be shared, and will spin off better pistons, heads and valvetrain components for the C5's and C5 Z.

 

Well I am still not going to feel inferior when the '07 or '08 Corvette SS comes out with 600 HP. I see no difference when I drive my C3 with 205 HP. I still wave to other vettes just like they wave back. I drive an American Icon and we are all brothers. ( some just get along better than others ) When I am in my Z again no difference.

Now pull up to a rice burnner with a fart can, well I just laugh. Sometimes I even let than think they are faster. Than I go to the next light and smokem. If the speed limit is 55 I just get there real quick, let them go by on the catch up and look for the flashing lights. Now thats funny. Staight, fast and doing the limit. To quote another member: TOP SAFE SPEED. I love this Sh#t.

 

My son is a PA in Charlotte and very high on the medical providers. I get a boost every time I hear someone has overcome cancer. I grew up at a time when it was almost always fatal and it's nice to know we are slowly winning the battles. I never got too depressed when my doctors gave me their diagnosis on my condition, although it took three specialists to discover the extent of the problem. At the same time I heard the news I also heard that my dentist of ten years had pancreatic cancer and I have felt lucky in comparison.
You will note from my early posts when I responded to you that I put many of your comments in quotes. I kept expecting that you would say you were only joking. You mentioned in another post that you had seen many with much more alarming statements than yours. Perhaps so, but I have not seen them. Some that initially seem reckless appear more to be just fun after careful reading. If the forum members I read accurately represent all who own Zs then it's a special group of people, as are vette owners in general. Every review I read states that the vette is the best sports car on the road for the money one spends. I have always been extremely proud to own one, even those from the late 70's and early 80s that you described as "pathetic" performers. I had owned a '63 split window coupe and a '67 big block and knew what they could do, but even the ones that followed gave me a special feeling. I have never felt "second class" behind the wheel of a vette.
I hope you have continued success medically speaking. I have often joked that when it is my time to depart this world going out in a vette would be the way to go. But then I don't know what would cause my son greater grief. He's been promised my Z when the diseases overtake me. (That's a joke, too.) If you are traveling the streets of Charlotte and someone in a black Z with Texas plates waves it could be me. Waving is about the only time I don't have both hands on the wheel so you got that right, but I always wave at vettes. All vette colors are great, but black is the baddest of the bad. Let's argue over that instead, or at least toast a drink to America's finest sportscar. That statement should give rise to no arguments.

 

Does owning an 02Z06 make me feel inferior to a newZ06 owner, nah, at the next light I'll give him a thumbs up. Does owning a 1976 stock 180hp stingray make me feel inferior to a new Z06 owner? nah at the next light I'll give him a thumbs up. If in either of these situations the newer Z owner doesn't acknowledge my attempts at letting him know that I respect his decision to buy a vette, well FU** HIM!! I didn't buy this car or the 76 to be judged by anyone, or think it gives me the right to judge any other car owner. I bought both cars because of the way they look, and the Z because of the way it performs. To each his own, but I do not feel anything except respect for every other corvette owner out there, regardless of the year or even condition.
BTW--RED IS THE ONLY CORVETTE COLOR THAT MATTERS (the color black is the absenc of color)

 

Personally and just my opinion, if a new Vette owner does not wave, then he Is the second class citizen!