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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 10:37 AM
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Honestly, I think Mike Valentine explains it best: "Once you live with the arrows, you'll wonder how you ever lived without them."
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 10:42 AM
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Well thanks to all of you for your opinions and facts about both radars. I've decided to go with the V1.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 10:49 AM
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Well thanks to all of you for your opinions and facts about both radars. I've decided to go with the V1.
Welcome to the Cult of V1.

Your mission is to recruit new users if you are pleased with the unit.


Seriously though, you have 30 days- test the sucker out and if it dosen't amaze you then return it for a refund.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Craig Wagner
This, and the previous post, are precisely the reason a lot of people rail against the V1 (i.e. the arrogance of the owners).

Read any comparison. The X50 and the V1 always finish neck-and-neck. As far as features, the X50 has some the V1 doesn't, and vice-versa. The most noticeable feature unique to the V1 are the arrows. Everyone makes such a big deal about the arrows. If you feel you can't live without the arrows, buy a V1. Me, when the detector goes off, I slow down. Seems the cracks about "features" and "inferior product" are coming from people who want to feel good about the $400 they spent.

Someone posted that the arrows saved him because he gets painted from behind and doesn't always watch his mirrors. That makes no sense. If the cop is right behind you and paints you, you're busted. If he's a ways back and is painting oncoming traffic, your detector will go off. If you follow the "if it beeps slow down" rule, again it doesn't matter where the signal is coming from. So what if you know he's behind you. You don't know if he's gaining on you or going the opposite direction. You can't speed up when it stops beeping because he might be gaining on you and will paint you from very close behind when it's too late to slow down.
I guess if you like slowing down everytime it beeps then you're good to go with the X50. I prefer to know what's actually going on.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by pianoprodigy
I guess if you like slowing down everytime it beeps then you're good to go with the X50. I prefer to know what's actually going on.


Exactly. My last comment was made in fun (mostly), too, since the comment about the V1's looks HAD to be a joke as well (right?). I mean, who buys a detector based on looks? I buy based on how it works.

A detector is a lot like insurance, I suppose. We should all probably have more insurance, but we usually buy only what we hope we need, and then hope we don't need it at all. But when we have a problem, we wish we had opted for more coverage. The V1 is no different. Sure, $400 is a lot of coin. But, the way I see it, you're paying for additional coverage. I believe that it gives you MAXIMUM coverage, especially where the arrows are concerned.

I always tell the story of how I was able to track a statey who was traveling the opposite side of the highway, who then turned around in the median back where I could no longer see him, then who inched his way back up behind me through traffic. I was able to warn my folks who were traveling in the "passing" lane that this guy was coming up behind up (despite the fact that I couldn't see him). The arrows showed where he was the whole time, and the bogey counters showed me that it was the same guy. And this might not even be the best example of how the arrows give you more information than you get with other detectors.

If the arrows cost more money, then so be it. I opted for greater coverage. With people spending $400 for interior trim pieces and whatnot (which *I* think is crazy), it makes the price of the V1 relative -- and the whole argument against it being too expensive an old, tired argument, especially when it gives you more info toward SAVING you additional money from tickets.

Railing against V1 OWNER is fine, especially if they make you feel like you made the wrong choice in detectors. Railing against the V1 is just silly.



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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by pianoprodigy
I guess if you like slowing down everytime it beeps then you're good to go with the X50. I prefer to know what's actually going on.
Yep, the more information the better, and the V1 is a radar locator whereas the X50 and others are just detectors. My Bel985 went to the Jeep after I bought the V1 for the Vette. When the Bel goes off, I find myself looking around...where is it?...not so with the V1. That one capability, the ability to locate the source rather than just scream "alert!" is what makes the V1 far superior. It even tells you which source is the greatest threat when you receive multiple hits from different directions.

A much bigger advantage the V1 has is that when it goes off, those big arrows light up and really catch your attention. This is very important when cruising with the top off and radio blasting. When I had the Bel I would never notice it going off while driving like that.
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Get what YOU like. Radar detectors will spark a religious war.
WELL, I DID WARN YOU !!!

All the came out of the woodwork - next up is the free for all Firefight...
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by EnglandGreen
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by chargedsol
yes, got my 8500 hardwired up with inviscord.


Makes thing cleaner looking!
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 01:44 PM
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my detectors better than yours and my dad can beat up your dad
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Originally Posted by EnglandGreen
WELL, I DID WARN YOU !!!
Your warning would have been better if it had arrows like the V1.







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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by KMeloney
Your warning would have been better if it had arrows like the V1.







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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 02:41 PM
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Get what YOU like. Radar detectors will spark a religious war.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Craig Wagner
The upgradeable thing is a bit misleading. It's not like you can just download a firmware update and flash it. It's a trade-in program, and if you've got one that's a couple of versions old you end up paying quite a bit to upgrade.

The 8500 X50 tells you how many signals its getting as well.

Only the V1 has the arrows.

For me the arrows weren't worth $130. Like I said before, if it beeps I slow down.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by pianoprodigy
Honestly, I think Mike Valentine explains it best: "Once you live with the arrows, you'll wonder how you ever lived without them."
IMO - Nuff said!
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 06:44 PM
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Most every review I have ever read picks the Escort as the best. Not always by a lot but still. Not to mention it is a hundred bucks less than the V1. Funny thing is if you see the V1 ads in the magazines you will notice they quote a test done several years ago where they were picked the winner. What good does that do ??

Any of the top 3 should give you piece of mind and save your butt. It only takes one hit to pay for its self.

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Originally Posted by pianoprodigy
I guess if you like slowing down everytime it beeps then you're good to go with the X50. I prefer to know what's actually going on.
So you're saying that when your detector goes off you don't immediately check your speed and slow down? In the time it takes you to look at the arrows and make a determination as to whether or not you think you should slow down, you'll have gotten a ticket.

Let's say your detector goes off and it shows the bogey is behind you. You check your mirror, determine if one of the three cars behind you is an LEO, and then decide whether to slow down or not? You might as well just pull over and get your license and registration out.

You have no idea, at the time the detector first goes off, what is "actually going on." You don't know if the LEO is approaching you from behind or moving in the opposite direction. The smartest thing you can do is slow down until you can assess where the danger actually is. Can you make that assessment more quickly with the arrows? Sure. So you can get back to speeding a good 30 seconds before I do. That just means you get a nicer parking spot when we get there, it doesn't mean you've had time to drink your first cup of coffee.
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Originally Posted by pianoprodigy
Honestly, I think Mike Valentine explains it best: "Once you live with the arrows, you'll wonder how you ever lived without them."
Yes, and that would be a totally unbiased source.

So why aren't we all driving Fords, because "quality is job 1" over there. Oh, wait, that's Ford's own slogan...

Sorry, I just refuse to drink the Kool-Aid. If the V1 were priced competitively with the X50 (given that they constantly run neck-and-neck in objective comparison tests) I might buy one.

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