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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 09:03 AM
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a few months ago someone was selling insulation titled dead zone for $180 for 50 sq. ft. has anyone tried this or am i better with exoticcorvette pre cut for $230. thanks
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I tried it out and I did notice a difference in sound and heat. I took my time and made sure that every noticable space was covered from front to back. It took quite a while to install that way but I wanted to be sure that it was going to work. I'm not too sure if it was worth my time and money, though. I've seen that most people are satisfied with other kits that cost less and are much easier to install, such as Crazy Cowboy's kit. I believe it took me 32 sheets to do my entire car and 17 for just the rear. If you have any question feel free to ask.
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 09:20 AM
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I did a search under "insualtion" and came up with what I think you are looking for.
Crazy Cowboy seems to be the guy.
I'm wrasslin with this myself, I had my wheel well liners out last weekend and can now see why there is so much noise. It's basically a hollow tunnel back there.
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 03:41 PM
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how do i get in touch with crazy cowboy and his kit precut?
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Here's his for sale ad:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...on&forum_id=53
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 04:10 PM
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here you go try these as well.....

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...20&forum_id=20

the audio section is a good place to check out sound deading products
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 04:21 PM
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I used his kit for the front and rear too. Noticeable difference.
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 05:53 PM
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We used to sell insulation, but the FrostKing method, as posted by mikemercury on here, is the best bang for the buck. One of the kits sold requires you to use spray adhesive to attach it. I don't want to be spraying that stuff on the inside of my car! it makes a mess with the overspray. The FrostKing has a light adhesive backing on it so you don't have to spray anything, plus it comes out if you need to remove it. The total cost to do the inside off your car is only about $60.00, and that includes the tape for the seams. For some of the kit versions, you end up spending almost $300 by the time you add the good adhesive and tape. Read the mike mercury stuff before you spend alot of $$$$. It works good for the sound as well as heat. his page even tells about the wheel liners too. Mikes post is :

http://mikemercury.home.att.net/sound.htm
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 08:49 PM
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thanks for all the info, i think i'll try frostking setup first. looking at the price diff its not a costly try.
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I just bought a bulk pack of Dynamat Xtreme on Ebay for $85 plus shipping. The bulk pack has 36Sq.ft. This is a butyl rubber product unlike some others that are made of asphalt. Here is an interesting site.

http://www.sounddeadenershowdown.com/

I am going to insulate the back of my vert with it. I also borrowed a Decibel meter and measured the sound levels back there today and am going to re-measure after the job. I'll post results later. My priority was sound reduction so the little extra weight isnt a concern. My car is bone stock except for Z06 exhaust. Hopefully it will be worth the effort.
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how do i get in touch with crazy cowboy and his kit precut?
www.exoticvette.com

Dan's a great guy.
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 10:19 PM
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I did the Frost King mod and I also installed the Dynomat Extreame (very expensive at Best buy - like $30 for 4 cu ft - used 3 of them) But what a difference in sound and heat!!!! Made a HUGE difference. I also took the inner fenders out and install a ton on insulation around the rear wheels.
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I'd like to do the same, but was worrying about the insualtion getting wet...and I'm thinking that if it gets wet it gets heavy and loses it's properties anyway...Your thoughts on the insualtion for the wheel wells??.......
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I bought a roll of a poly type insulation (looks like the old fiberglass type) and it was designed to be water resistant and said it was for "sound" insulating as well. It wont absorb water but i guess it might hold some between the layers if you drive in heavy down pour for a while and would take a while to evaporate, but its not a sponge, it repels water (rolls off). I don’t drive mine in the rain (or try not too unless i get stuck out in it) so i was not too worried about that.

You could use the frost king with a layer or two in the large void in front of the wheel - at least it will be better than nothing - and it wont absorb water (if it did it would be very little). When I took the inner wheel liners out I added a layer of frost king to it as well. You can only go 1 layer thick due to the lack of room and the liner will not go back in place. Had to do some adjusting afterward to make it line up but was not hard and looks stock now. If you want the max benefit get the dynomat extreame and put a large chuck on all large areas inside of the car. You can knock on a area before and hear it echo and add a 4" x 4" piece of Dynomax and then knock on it and it a solid thud. I would test different areas and then add a chuck to that area only if it needed it - saved a lot of dynomax that way. Behind the seats is the area that needs the most Dynomax and Frost King. I put a big 2 ft x 2 ft dynomax behind the seats and two layers of frost king. Good luck, and take your time. Oh yeah, wear glove - frost king will cut your hands up.

If your still worried about it holding water you can by spray insulation too and it will not absorb any. Looked kinda messy so i didnt bother with it.
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 01:58 PM
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Did it last fall and worth the money for the precut kit. Good guy to deal with.

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Originally Posted by bmathews
We used to sell insulation, but the FrostKing method, as posted by mikemercury on here, is the best bang for the buck. One of the kits sold requires you to use spray adhesive to attach it. I don't want to be spraying that stuff on the inside of my car! it makes a mess with the overspray. The FrostKing has a light adhesive backing on it so you don't have to spray anything, plus it comes out if you need to remove it. The total cost to do the inside off your car is only about $60.00, and that includes the tape for the seams. For some of the kit versions, you end up spending almost $300 by the time you add the good adhesive and tape. Read the mike mercury stuff before you spend alot of $$$$. It works good for the sound as well as heat. his page even tells about the wheel liners too. Mikes post is :

http://mikemercury.home.att.net/sound.htm

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I bought two Dynomat Xtreme bulk packs on ebay for $85 each... Did the whole car myself and I couldn't be happier!
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My .02

It was a 2 or 3 hour project. I wasn't able to find the Frost King @ Lowes..they couldn't find it even under the SKU #..So I found a similar product. I also got some fiberglass insulation.

I wasn't able to use much of the Frost KIng stuff, as the fender well is pretty tight as it is. I did use 4 cans of the underbody spray. I can see why it is so noisy in the cabin, I bet it acts just like a hollow tunnel and everything is actually magnified. I also stuffed some of the fiberglass near the front of the wheel wells and after a quick test ride it does seem a bit quieter in the rear.

I'm glad I did it, but almost wish I could spend a day on each side and really do the whole deal ...inside and out.

Thanks for the tips guys!
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