What's faster???
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http://videos.streetfire.net/categor...A25F714744.htm
note that the z06 is not even the 405 hp one, it's an '01. both cars are stock.
note that the z06 is not even the 405 hp one, it's an '01. both cars are stock.
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Originally Posted by DJN
So I guess we can assume a stock 350hp - C5 six speed with an aftermarket exhaust and intake should be able to take the C6 as well. 
Last edited by ZO6vettepilot; Mar 28, 2006 at 04:10 PM.
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Originally Posted by DJN
So I guess we can assume a stock 350hp - C5 six speed with an aftermarket exhaust and intake should be able to take the C6 as well.
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I believe that is has been written about in mag's that the C5 Z06 will beat a C6. As everyone has said driver difference could and will make a difference. With professional drivers, the C5 Z06 will always win.
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So whats the RWHP difference between a C5Z and a Non Z C5?
A stab in the dark from a newbie =
Stock C5 350hp 315 to the wheels.
Stock C5Z 385hp, 350 to the wheels.
So if you toss on a couple mods to get your C5 up to the same RWHP as an Early C5Z (~350ish?), then you're runnin with or possibly beating the C6 non Zs?
A stab in the dark from a newbie =
Stock C5 350hp 315 to the wheels.
Stock C5Z 385hp, 350 to the wheels.
So if you toss on a couple mods to get your C5 up to the same RWHP as an Early C5Z (~350ish?), then you're runnin with or possibly beating the C6 non Zs?
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Originally Posted by LF97C5Vette
So whats the RWHP difference between a C5Z and a Non Z C5?
A stab in the dark from a newbie =
Stock C5 350hp 315 to the wheels.
Stock C5Z 385hp, 350 to the wheels.
So if you toss on a couple mods to get your C5 up to the same RWHP as an Early C5Z (~350ish?), then you're runnin with or possibly beating the C6 non Zs?
A stab in the dark from a newbie =
Stock C5 350hp 315 to the wheels.
Stock C5Z 385hp, 350 to the wheels.
So if you toss on a couple mods to get your C5 up to the same RWHP as an Early C5Z (~350ish?), then you're runnin with or possibly beating the C6 non Zs?
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Originally Posted by LF97C5Vette
So whats the RWHP difference between a C5Z and a Non Z C5?
A stab in the dark from a newbie =
Stock C5 350hp 315 to the wheels.
Stock C5Z 385hp, 350 to the wheels.
So if you toss on a couple mods to get your C5 up to the same RWHP as an Early C5Z (~350ish?), then you're runnin with or possibly beating the C6 non Zs?
A stab in the dark from a newbie =
Stock C5 350hp 315 to the wheels.
Stock C5Z 385hp, 350 to the wheels.
So if you toss on a couple mods to get your C5 up to the same RWHP as an Early C5Z (~350ish?), then you're runnin with or possibly beating the C6 non Zs?
Stock 2001 Z06 @ 385 HP is probably about 330-345 RWHP..give or take again rough estimate depending on miles on the car etc...
Stock 2002+ Z06 is 405 flywheel, and about 350-355 RWHP
The intake and exhaust mods are not going to give you that much HP without tuning... Headers will give you more power and you will notice a difference, but again to get full advantage out of the HP the car needs to be tuned... you can probably gain 10HP from an intake with out tune,, but that is 10HP at the flywheels..so almost nothing to the wheels.
The real gain is when you add headers, cam and a tune...then your talking real power that will make a difference vs a stock C5 Z or C6 stock.
Last edited by FrankTank; Mar 28, 2006 at 05:23 PM.
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From: Tacoma WA
Originally Posted by Casem1
Don't forget weight.
The 97 Coupe is 50lbs heavier than the C6
The 01 C5Z is 64lbs lighter than the C6 and 114lbs lighter than the C5.
The 114lbs difference between the C5Z and the C5 would have to be considered when modding the C5 to the same RWHP as the C5Z
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http://autos.msn.com/research/compar...=t92758&v=t151
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The '04 CE ZO6 is the fastest of the C5 generation. It should put down a stock C6 with no problems. That being said, the C5 Z vs the C6 will probably come down to the drivers, but my money's on the C5.
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Originally Posted by FrankTank
Stock C5 350hp if it is a 6 speed, it's probably on average about 305-310 RWHP..maybe a few factory freaks at 315... an A4 C5 stock is about 290-300 RWHP..more loss of RWHP due to A4 trans
Stock 2001 Z06 @ 385 HP is probably about 330-345 RWHP..give or take again rough estimate depending on miles on the car etc...
Stock 2002+ Z06 is 405 flywheel, and about 350-355 RWHP
The intake and exhaust mods are not going to give you that much HP without tuning... Headers will give you more power and you will notice a difference, but again to get full advantage out of the HP the car needs to be tuned... you can probably gain 10HP from an intake with out tune,, but that is 10HP at the flywheels..so almost nothing to the wheels.
The real gain is when you add headers, cam and a tune...then your talking real power that will make a difference vs a stock C5 Z or C6 stock.
Stock 2001 Z06 @ 385 HP is probably about 330-345 RWHP..give or take again rough estimate depending on miles on the car etc...
Stock 2002+ Z06 is 405 flywheel, and about 350-355 RWHP
The intake and exhaust mods are not going to give you that much HP without tuning... Headers will give you more power and you will notice a difference, but again to get full advantage out of the HP the car needs to be tuned... you can probably gain 10HP from an intake with out tune,, but that is 10HP at the flywheels..so almost nothing to the wheels.
The real gain is when you add headers, cam and a tune...then your talking real power that will make a difference vs a stock C5 Z or C6 stock.
Your numbers are right on 290-300 for an automatic and 305 310 for 6 speed
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Don't forget the C5z06 has more agressive gearing. The regular C5 will need more hp than a C5 Z06 to achieve the same times due to the weight and gearing difference.
Originally Posted by CorvetteForum
M12 6-Speed Manual
This transmission is unique to the Z06, and is the only transmission available for that model. It is not available on Corvette coupes or convertibles. It has more aggressive gearing to increase torque multiplication in most forward gears, allowing for more rapid acceleration and more usable torque at higher speeds.
Gear Ratios
LS1/MM6 LS6/M12
1st Gear 2.66:1 2.97:1
2nd Gear 1.78:1 2.07:1
3rd Gear 1.30:1 1.43:1
4th Gear 1.00:1 1.00:1
5th Gear 0.74:1 0.84:1
6th Gear 0.50:1 0.56:1
Reverse 2.90:1 3.28:1
This transmission is unique to the Z06, and is the only transmission available for that model. It is not available on Corvette coupes or convertibles. It has more aggressive gearing to increase torque multiplication in most forward gears, allowing for more rapid acceleration and more usable torque at higher speeds.
Gear Ratios
LS1/MM6 LS6/M12
1st Gear 2.66:1 2.97:1
2nd Gear 1.78:1 2.07:1
3rd Gear 1.30:1 1.43:1
4th Gear 1.00:1 1.00:1
5th Gear 0.74:1 0.84:1
6th Gear 0.50:1 0.56:1
Reverse 2.90:1 3.28:1
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Originally Posted by DJN
Trying to settle a bet… A friend is buying a new C6 coupe and says it will dust the old ZO6 no problem. I’m calling him out on it. 
Honestly, I think it will depend on the driver, but I think the ZO6 has an edge.