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Old Oct 22, 2006 | 08:43 PM
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I have an 2000 Vert and installed HID kit and they worked fine except for one thing. When I turn them off the lights won't flip back down and the HID's wont turn off. Does anyone have a fix for this? When I put the stock bulbs back in they work fine.

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Old Oct 23, 2006 | 02:33 AM
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the first set of hids i ever bought back in 98 did this same thing. you could turn the lights off, but the headlights would not go up or down with the lights in the low beam position. try fliping your lights to hi beam then turning off while still in hi beam position. they should go out and down then. when turning the lights on, leave them on hi beam, just like when you turned them off, and then turn them on while in hi beam position. once the lights are up, click them back to low beam and hids should come on, when your ready to turn them off, click back to hi beam and then twist the *** back to turn them off while still clicked forward in hi beam position. i hope that makes sense, im guessing you have an hid kit that has only one "box" to run each headlight, what that means is the ballast and ignitor are built into one "box" , this is the kind i had back in the day that were made by phillips, and would only allow my headlights to go up and down when in the hi beam position. the newer one "box" design have power wires, grounds, and relays you have to wire up along with the harness you plug in to your factory harness. the old ones just plugged into your fac. harrness. and didnt like to work well. i have found that hid kits that have two boxes, one is the ignitor and the other is the ballast, will allow your headlights to work properly. let me know if it works turning your lights on hi beam befor you turn them on and again befor you turn them off.

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Old Oct 23, 2006 | 02:48 AM
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The kit is new I just got it from tbyrne. The hi beam trick does work bet the bigger problem is that the hids will not turn off unless I disconect them from the battery.

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Old Oct 23, 2006 | 04:06 AM
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does the kit have a relay with it,............ if so you may have the wires backwards on the relay? i dont know much about the tbyron kit, what manuf. are they made by, and is it a one box set up or a two box set up. also do you have to run a power wire to the batt. or does the kit just have two wires to plug into the factory harrness. make sure if it just has two wires a ground and negavie you are connecting them to the prongs in the wirng harrness that plugs into the original bulbs and not directly to the batt.
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Old Oct 23, 2006 | 04:12 AM
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make sure if the kit only has two wires to hook up for power that you are hooking them up to the two terminals that used to plug into the bulb. and this wire that your unhooking from the batt. to make the lights go out,.... if you hook it back up to the batt do the lights come on automaticlly. if so you dont need to hook that wire to the batt. but to the terminals inside the plug that went to the original bulbs.
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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 11:40 PM
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I just bought a kit from TBYRNE, and mine is doing exactly the same thing. I suspect the wires to the relay are hooked up wrong.
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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 11:56 PM
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I fixed it
The diodes in the white wire are hooked up backwards. Strip of the shrink tubeing and reverse the diode and it will work fine.

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Thanks, I will try that. I'm really not to impressed with the light output. Maybe I need to adjust it down. It also seems like one side is brighter than the other.
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by pk1
I fixed it
The diodes in the white wire are hooked up backwards. Strip of the shrink tubeing and reverse the diode and it will work fine.

Paul
Hmmmm, I hope its not a diode, diodes are polarized or "one-way" if you reverse them they will pop.

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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 10:32 AM
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It is a Signal diode 1N5408
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Thanks dude, that fixed it. But now my low beams won't stay on when I turn on the high beams. Is that how yours is?


I guess it's not really a big deal, at least they go up and down and turn off now.
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 03:54 PM
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The high and the low beams wont stay on at the same time. My kit came with no instructions but a forum member sent me a copy of another venders instructions. In those instructions the wiring harness was modified to let the high and low beams stay on at the same time. Hope this helps other people because I'm sure our kits aren't the only ones.

Also the connector on the harness from the ballast to the wire harness that runs to the battery is also backwards. The positive is connected to the negative. Just flip the connector so the 2 red wires are in line.
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Originally Posted by 03SpiralGray
Thanks dude, that fixed it. But now my low beams won't stay on when I turn on the high beams. Is that how yours is?


I guess it's not really a big deal, at least they go up and down and turn off now.

I don't think low beams ever stay on when the high beams are on....that's for every car not just Vettes.
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That was one of the selling point of this kit was high and low beams on at the same time. I found out about that wire, I just unlocked it then moved it to the proper location so I wouldn't have to reverse it.
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Originally Posted by 03SpiralGray
That was one of the selling point of this kit was high and low beams on at the same time. I found out about that wire, I just unlocked it then moved it to the proper location so I wouldn't have to reverse it.

Right on! I'll shut up now......
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 10:12 PM
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Right on! I'll shut up now......
My HIDs remain ON when I turn on the high beams (which are HIR bulbs).

It's too bad Brian (NOT-MEE) ran into problems with his business (Vette-HID), otherwise I'd say try and ping him for help (he put a TON of work into the electronics; he has a EE background; he didn't simply drop ship the kits from the manufacturer to the end customer).

But I didn't want to bring this up because of the bad blood involved in his issues with CF members who are still waiting for their HID kits which they paid for

One of the "features" of his kit involved rework of the wiring harnesses to ensure that the headlights go up and down (as designed) when switched (from the headlight switch) AND to ensure that the HIDS remain on while the high beams are on

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One of the "features" of his kit involved rework of the wiring harnesses to ensure that the headlights go up and down (as designed) when switched (from the headlight switch) AND to ensure that the HIDS remain on while the high beams are on

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My ACA HIDs (which are the exact same headlamps as the ones you have) operate with the low beams and high beams on directly from the manufacturer.

They come from ACA with proper functionality, there is no need to rig any extra "features" to them as some people have claimed.
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My ACA HIDs (which are the exact same headlamps as the ones you have) operate with the low beams and high beams on directly from the manufacturer.

They come from ACA with proper functionality, there is no need to rig any extra "features" to them as some people have claimed.
pk1 mentioned that he purchased his HID kit through TByrne; I remember seeing in a thread a while ago that TByrne's kits were acquired by the same manufacturer (ACA Performance) as Vette-HID.

So all three of us are using kits based on ACA Performance...

Obviously something is amiss with pk1's kit (and I've seen other posts mentioning the same issues regarding the proper functionality of this ACA "feature").

FWIW, I have yet to see any threads/posts regarding issues of ANY sort with the Vette-HID kit other than bad business-related issues...whether you choose to believe "his claims" of integration testing/electronics rework/harness tweaking or not, his wealth of experience with these kits will be missed...

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Originally Posted by chai1836
I don't think low beams ever stay on when the high beams are on....that's for every car not just Vettes.

With HIDs they stay lit because of the time it takes to fully light and the voltage to light them, once lit they don't draw as much current as incandescent bulbs. All the OEM applications that i have seen with the combination of HID low beams and incandescent high beams the low always stays on with the high beams.

The fog lights will turn off with the highs.
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