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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Ta-taaa
The battey does only have a little over 11 Volts.
That is too low, should be at least 12v, closer to 12.5. Have the battery charged/checked at autozone. If it's ok, have the alternator checked.

When voltage is low, some things will work, others won't. You have to get good voltage b4 you move on to other possibilities like security problems.
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by angel71rs
That is too low, should be at least 12v, closer to 12.5. Have the battery charged/checked at autozone. If it's ok, have the alternator checked.

When voltage is low, some things will work, others won't. You have to get good voltage b4 you move on to other possibilities like security problems.

on all of the above
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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by angel71rs
That is too low, should be at least 12v, closer to 12.5. Have the battery charged/checked at autozone. If it's ok, have the alternator checked.

When voltage is low, some things will work, others won't. You have to get good voltage b4 you move on to other possibilities like security problems.
good or bad voltage thats still not the problem with the car the voltage is low from messing with the car im sure but even with low voltage i should be able to check my codes on the DIC which i can get to every other option but that option on my DIC
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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 05:30 AM
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sounds like your security system has locked you out .
A couple of times this past couple of months my car did the same thing . had all the power , but would not even turn over . I would pull the key out , then try again , and it would start . had not done it in a while now after i cleaned my key contacts with alcohol .
Do you have a spare key to try ?
something may have gotten in the ingnition switch keeping it form seeing the key chip .

maybe a long shot , but why not try to disconnect the battery for a hour or so and see if the the car will reset .

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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 06:40 AM
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sounds like your security system has locked you out .
A couple of times this past couple of months my car did the same thing . had all the power , but would not even turn over . I would pull the key out , then try again , and it would start . had not done it in a while now after i cleaned my key contacts with alcohol .
Do you have a spare key to try ?
something may have gotten in the ingnition switch keeping it form seeing the key chip .

maybe a long shot , but why not try to disconnect the battery for a hour or so and see if the the car will reset .

good luck
there isnt much i havent tried i disconnected the battery tried touching the to terminals together while its unhooked cleaned all the grounds and contacts tried spare key nothing is working.when that happened to you were ya able to get to your codes on your DIC? or just everything but your codes on your DIC?
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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 11:04 AM
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Do you have any kind of electrical mod, i.e CLB, or window valet??

Have you tryed charging the battery???
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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 11:33 AM
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Im new to this board but I have had this same problem before and it was a security issue, car would start perfect a 1000 times and then get in once and it wouldnt start. All of my interior lights would come on, radio would play, dash gauges would light up but I would turn the key and get nothing.

Try this...its worked a few times...try starting the car and when it does nothing turn the key back to the off position and wait about three mintues and then try turning the key again. I dont know the techincal reason as to why this happens or even how to stop it. I had a 96 camaro that use to do the same thing all the time. Its only happened once in my vette. Hope this helps.
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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 11:49 AM
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11.4 volts is a completely discharged battery.

Lead acid batteries are made up of cells. Each cell is approximately 2 volts, so a 12-volt battery has 6 individual cells. It turns out that a fully charged 2-volt cell has a voltage of approximately 2.15 volts. Oddly enough, a fully discharged 2-volt cell has a voltage of 1.9 volts. That’s only a difference of 0.25 volts on each cell from fully charged to fully discharged. So a 12-volt battery will measure at about 12.9 volts when it’s fully charged and about 11.4 volts when it is fully discharged. That’s a total of 1.5 volts that represents the full range of charge on a 12-volt battery.

Did you try to jump the car? If jumping starts it, you have a bad battery. C5s don't like low battery voltage, the computer does strange things.
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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Gonzo
Do you have any kind of electrical mod, i.e CLB, or window valet??

Have you tryed charging the battery???
no electrical mods nor have i had a problem with starting the car til that nite.the car was charging fine up until i cut it off and went to to turn it back on 3 minutes later i know the battery is not the issue for sure.
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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by jasons0147
Im new to this board but I have had this same problem before and it was a security issue, car would start perfect a 1000 times and then get in once and it wouldnt start. All of my interior lights would come on, radio would play, dash gauges would light up but I would turn the key and get nothing.

Try this...its worked a few times...try starting the car and when it does nothing turn the key back to the off position and wait about three mintues and then try turning the key again. I dont know the techincal reason as to why this happens or even how to stop it. I had a 96 camaro that use to do the same thing all the time. Its only happened once in my vette. Hope this helps.
i am leaning towards a security issue but ive turned the keys so many times its sad and no change.
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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Oldvetter
11.4 volts is a completely discharged battery.

Lead acid batteries are made up of cells. Each cell is approximately 2 volts, so a 12-volt battery has 6 individual cells. It turns out that a fully charged 2-volt cell has a voltage of approximately 2.15 volts. Oddly enough, a fully discharged 2-volt cell has a voltage of 1.9 volts. That’s only a difference of 0.25 volts on each cell from fully charged to fully discharged. So a 12-volt battery will measure at about 12.9 volts when it’s fully charged and about 11.4 volts when it is fully discharged. That’s a total of 1.5 volts that represents the full range of charge on a 12-volt battery.

Did you try to jump the car? If jumping starts it, you have a bad battery. C5s don't like low battery voltage, the computer does strange things.
no i have not tried jumping the car.when the key is turned to start the car the lights stay bright and not even a clicking noise or slow turn of the motor.if the battery was weak the lights would at least dim when a load is dropped on them
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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 03:43 PM
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ok news update i took the battery to advance had it tested and charged nothing wrong with the battery.put it back in the car hooked it up turned the key and it cranked hard like it had jumped timing then finally started ran fine for maybe 1 minute then cut back off.and went back to the way it was before not even a noise when turning the key and the under the hood light went out as well as the courtesy lights and while it was running i was still unable to get to check my codes it wouldnt let me.so is it a bcm,pcm or security issue? maybe the computer just took a crap and wont let the car run? any ideas?
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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 03:59 PM
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That last post makes me think that you might have an issue with the battery cable(s). Can you have a helper jiggle the cables as you try to start it? I've had similiar problems with much simpler cars.
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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by madeouttaglass
That last post makes me think that you might have an issue with the battery cable(s). Can you have a helper jiggle the cables as you try to start it? I've had similiar problems with much simpler cars.
not the cables either cause whatever is keeping it from running is what is keeping me from checking my codes on the dic display.all other options on my dic seem to work but to get into my options to check codes it will not let me do itall the cables are tight on the battery.
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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 05:43 PM
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Heh bud it sounds like a shorted starter motor....but the battery voltage is too low as stated above...age of battery is not relevant....try other battery ....easiest elimination....pull all fuses install one at a time, any strange issues???? the clicking is the solenoids pulling in and dropping out because the battery voltage is so low....starter next but it's much tougher try taking the cable off the feed to the starter motor and all fuses....first see if everything else works one simple step at a time....
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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 06:30 PM
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Heh bud it sounds like a shorted starter motor....but the battery voltage is too low as stated above...age of battery is not relevant....try other battery ....easiest elimination....pull all fuses install one at a time, any strange issues???? the clicking is the solenoids pulling in and dropping out because the battery voltage is so low....starter next but it's much tougher try taking the cable off the feed to the starter motor and all fuses....first see if everything else works one simple step at a time....
Bst of luck
again its not the starter battery or the alt none of those things will cause my dic not to let me check my codes.the battery is fine it was tested the alt is charging.im 90% sure that its a computer or a security issue im looking for someone that can help me figure out how to determine the problem other than starter alt or battery which was eliminated from this problem a long time ago.
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Rikk, I know you checked them, but check G104 again. It's the ground next to the inboard side of the battery. Take it apart, clean and reassemble it. If that doesn't fix it, my guess is that the PCM is either fried or corroded. A trip to the dealer may be your only recourse .
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Rikk, I know you checked them, but check G104 again. It's the ground next to the inboard side of the battery. Take it apart, clean and reassemble it. If that doesn't fix it, my guess is that the PCM is either fried or corroded. A trip to the dealer may be your only recourse .
i did that yesterday took apart all the grounds and cleaned them
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 01:09 AM
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Maybe a dumb question this late in your diagnosis but, battery cables have two ends. Have you checked the connections at other end of each?

Good luck! Can't wait to hear what you finally find.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 06:10 PM
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My heart goes out to you, I know my patience would be wearing thin about now. I say call the dealer, is it still under any kind of warranty??

Sorry I have no good ideas

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