It never did that before
Instructor
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 211
Likes: 2
From: Glendale CA
Highly doubt its the gas, pull key wait 10, is the tell tail sign of colum lock issue. Even if the dealer fixed it it will still occur.
A4s did have the propblem also, at least until 2000 or 2001.
GL
A4s did have the propblem also, at least until 2000 or 2001.
GL
Le Mans Master
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 7,727
Likes: 7
From: Twilight zone
St. Jude Donor '05-'06
I had mine replaced not once,but twice at the local dealership.
If your car is stock,you might risk it and have the dealer install it for you...........at least it is free that way
Others on this site would rather install themselves so as not to let the stealership touch their cars.That choice,of course,is up to you....
Reason I say stock is because if you have a custom tune ,they may erase that if they reflash the computer.I think they do that at the dealer in some cases.
Just wanted you to know,in case you didn't,that it is a recall
If your car is stock,you might risk it and have the dealer install it for you...........at least it is free that way
Others on this site would rather install themselves so as not to let the stealership touch their cars.That choice,of course,is up to you....
Reason I say stock is because if you have a custom tune ,they may erase that if they reflash the computer.I think they do that at the dealer in some cases.
Just wanted you to know,in case you didn't,that it is a recall
Race Director
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 13,598
Likes: 1,353
From: Home of the VOLS ! Knoxville, TN. Tennessee
St. Jude Donor '11-'12-'13, '15, '16-'17-'18-'19
Originally Posted by 65GGvert
Try cleaning your key with alcohol or maybe if you have a spare key to try. It could be just not recognizing your key chip.
no questions about it . that is your culprit !
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Safety Car
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 4,131
Likes: 2
From: "Never play games with a bitch who can play them better" NE PA
Cruise-In VIII & IX Veteran
St. Jude Donor '07-'08
Originally Posted by flynbya2
I had mine replaced not once,but twice at the local dealership.
If your car is stock,you might risk it and have the dealer install it for you...........at least it is free that way
Others on this site would rather install themselves so as not to let the stealership touch their cars.That choice,of course,is up to you....
Reason I say stock is because if you have a custom tune ,they may erase that if they reflash the computer.I think they do that at the dealer in some cases.
Just wanted you to know,in case you didn't,that it is a recall
If your car is stock,you might risk it and have the dealer install it for you...........at least it is free that way
Others on this site would rather install themselves so as not to let the stealership touch their cars.That choice,of course,is up to you....
Reason I say stock is because if you have a custom tune ,they may erase that if they reflash the computer.I think they do that at the dealer in some cases.
Just wanted you to know,in case you didn't,that it is a recall
Thanks guys---anyone got anything stronger than an aspirin---oh wait--I do---nevermind..
Le Mans Master
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 7,727
Likes: 7
From: Twilight zone
St. Jude Donor '05-'06
I think the dealer must do it for the freebie
I just had mine done AGAIN on my 98 about a month ago for nada/zilch/zip
I was a lil' surprised it had to be done again actually,I believe there was an "upgraded" version that I didn't get the first time
You should be good to go now.Call the dealer,or buck up and have your mechanic replace it for a fee,and the cost of the part.
Or,save your money.......and send half to me
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Tip:just tell them you only want the column lock issue replaced..NOTHING ELSE!!
That way, if it turns out to be something else, you can have it repaired by your mechanic....and the diagnosis of the extra problem will be free! (I love that word
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I just had mine done AGAIN on my 98 about a month ago for nada/zilch/zip
I was a lil' surprised it had to be done again actually,I believe there was an "upgraded" version that I didn't get the first time
You should be good to go now.Call the dealer,or buck up and have your mechanic replace it for a fee,and the cost of the part.
Or,save your money.......and send half to me
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Tip:just tell them you only want the column lock issue replaced..NOTHING ELSE!!
That way, if it turns out to be something else, you can have it repaired by your mechanic....and the diagnosis of the extra problem will be free!
(I love that word )
Last edited by flynbya2; Nov 5, 2006 at 02:58 PM.
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Le Mans Master
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 5,407
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From: HONOLULU HAWAII
If your car has not had any of the previous recalls performed on it, I strongly suggest you DO NOT do it. If you do a search on the subject you will find many people who had the recalls done had problems afterwards. The dealers may use a faulty k harness and also program your car to cut fuel if it detects a problem with the column lock whether real or perceived. Somtimes the CLB will not work properly after the recalls have been performed. You can provide your dealership your VIN and they will be able to tell you whether or not the recalls were done to your car. Just purchase the Column Lock Bypass kit and you can install it yourself, it is very easy. Here is a link showing you how.
http://www.ls1howto.com/index.php?article=24
*Edit...BTW, can your steering wheel turn with the key out of the ignition?
http://www.ls1howto.com/index.php?article=24
*Edit...BTW, can your steering wheel turn with the key out of the ignition?
Last edited by WWK888; Nov 5, 2006 at 03:16 PM.
Burning Brakes
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,077
Likes: 0
From: Toledo Ohio
Originally Posted by Burgie
If you fueled up the evening before with a different fuel than usual chances are that may be the culprit. Had the same problem, removed key for 10 sec, restarted and no further problem. Column lock fixed prior-
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Safety Car
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 4,131
Likes: 2
From: "Never play games with a bitch who can play them better" NE PA
Cruise-In VIII & IX Veteran
St. Jude Donor '07-'08
Originally Posted by flynbya2
I think the dealer must do it for the freebie
I just had mine done AGAIN on my 98 about a month ago for nada/zilch/zip
I was a lil' surprised it had to be done again actually,I believe there was an "upgraded" version that I didn't get the first time
You should be good to go now.Call the dealer,or buck up and have your mechanic replace it for a fee,and the cost of the part.
Or,save your money.......and send half to me
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
Tip:just tell them you only want the column lock issue replaced..NOTHING ELSE!!
That way, if it turns out to be something else, you can have it repaired by your mechanic....and the diagnosis of the extra problem will be free! (I love that word )
I just had mine done AGAIN on my 98 about a month ago for nada/zilch/zip
I was a lil' surprised it had to be done again actually,I believe there was an "upgraded" version that I didn't get the first time
You should be good to go now.Call the dealer,or buck up and have your mechanic replace it for a fee,and the cost of the part.
Or,save your money.......and send half to me
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
Tip:just tell them you only want the column lock issue replaced..NOTHING ELSE!!
That way, if it turns out to be something else, you can have it repaired by your mechanic....and the diagnosis of the extra problem will be free!
(I love that word )If I get to save any money it will be put into my mod fund
--got tires, wheels and exhaust to think about..
Thread Starter
Safety Car
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 4,131
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From: "Never play games with a bitch who can play them better" NE PA
Cruise-In VIII & IX Veteran
St. Jude Donor '07-'08
*Edit...BTW, can your steering wheel turn with the key out of the ignition?[/QUOTE]
I really wasn't sure if my steering wheel moved or not---so I just went out to the garage and yes it does..And that now means what???
I really wasn't sure if my steering wheel moved or not---so I just went out to the garage and yes it does..And that now means what???
Le Mans Master
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 7,727
Likes: 7
From: Twilight zone
St. Jude Donor '05-'06
Originally Posted by WWK888
If your car has not had any of the previous recalls performed on it, I strongly suggest you DO NOT do it. If you do a search on the subject you will find many people who had the recalls done had problems afterwards. The dealers may use a faulty k harness and also program your car to cut fuel if it detects a problem with the column lock whether real or perceived. Somtimes the CLB will not work properly after the recalls have been performed. You can provide your dealership your VIN and they will be able to tell you whether or not the recalls were done to your car. Just purchase the Column Lock Bypass kit and you can install it yourself, it is very easy. Here is a link showing you how.
http://www.ls1howto.com/index.php?article=24
*Edit...BTW, can your steering wheel turn with the key out of the ignition?
http://www.ls1howto.com/index.php?article=24
*Edit...BTW, can your steering wheel turn with the key out of the ignition?
Which is why I decided to have mine done,and yes it did fail once,but repaired again for free...
Btchn99......If your wheel turns free,you have apparantly had the clb performed
If it is the clb issue revisited( like mine),they will repair and upgrade the harness free of charge
I like free
Le Mans Master
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 5,407
Likes: 1
From: HONOLULU HAWAII
Originally Posted by btchn99
*Edit...BTW, can your steering wheel turn with the key out of the ignition?
If I were you I would still ask your dealer to run your VIN and see if they performed the recall. If you are lucky they did not perform the recall and the previous owner installed the aftermarlet CLB.
If you do have the CLB installed then that code is probably related to the VATS (Vehicle Anti Theft System). Try cleaning your key (pellet) or try using your spare key and see what happens.
Le Mans Master
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 5,407
Likes: 1
From: HONOLULU HAWAII
Originally Posted by flynbya2
It has been quite some time since I have revisited this issue(clb),but if memory serves me,I seem to recall the problems related to dealer installed clb's was with the m6 transmissions and not nso much the a-4's
Which is why I decided to have mine done,and yes it did fail once,but repaired again for free...
Btchn99......If your wheel turns free,you have apparantly had the clb performed
If it is the clb issue revisited( like mine),they will repair and upgrade the harness free of charge
I like free
Which is why I decided to have mine done,and yes it did fail once,but repaired again for free...
Btchn99......If your wheel turns free,you have apparantly had the clb performed
If it is the clb issue revisited( like mine),they will repair and upgrade the harness free of charge
I like free
Thread Starter
Safety Car
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 4,131
Likes: 2
From: "Never play games with a bitch who can play them better" NE PA
Cruise-In VIII & IX Veteran
St. Jude Donor '07-'08
Originally Posted by flynbya2
It has been quite some time since I have revisited this issue(clb),but if memory serves me,I seem to recall the problems related to dealer installed clb's was with the m6 transmissions and not nso much the a-4's
Which is why I decided to have mine done,and yes it did fail once,but repaired again for free...
Btchn99......If your wheel turns free,you have apparantly had the clb performed
If it is the clb issue revisited( like mine),they will repair and upgrade the harness free of charge
I like free
Which is why I decided to have mine done,and yes it did fail once,but repaired again for free...
Btchn99......If your wheel turns free,you have apparantly had the clb performed
If it is the clb issue revisited( like mine),they will repair and upgrade the harness free of charge
I like free
Did you remember to bring your crystal ball to answer all my questons tonight???
I might brake it ya know..
BTW: I like free to but your still not getting my savings..
Tech Contributor
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 19,384
Likes: 87
From: Horncastle Lincolnshire, England
2023 C5 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
Originally Posted by WWK888
The column lock issue was prevalent in both the M6 (97-2004) and A4's (up to and including the 2000 models). The initial recall did not remove the locking plate in the M6's as they did in the A4's. The Feb 2006 recall did remove the locking plate in the M6's however they also had numerous problems with faulty K harnesses. IMHO you are better off not having any of the recalls done and just install the CLB.
Lori, I have a later model A4 so I'm not affected. That said, there are very few posts of problems after a CLB is installed. On the other hand, horror stories of failed dealer fixes are very common.
I'd go CLB and be done with the risk. JMHO
Team Owner
Joined: Jul 2006
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From: Kannapolis NC
When I previously owned a 98 A4, I got the message one time. I cleaned the key and never got it again. There is a third type of C5, one that has never had the column lock in the first place. Good luck, post what happens.
Pro
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 519
Likes: 1
From: Just North of Buffalo NY
This same thing has happened to me before. I have the clb installed and it is an A4. But anyway...what your problem here is a dirty chip on the key. I posted the same problem here previously and everyone told me that was the answer. I cleaned the key and problems have not returned. Try cleaning it first. Don't panic and start calling Mr Goodwrench right away.