c5 v viper road course
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c5 v viper road course
i am going to take on my friends viper at road atlanta in the spring my 2001 c5 is bone stock. i must win. he killed my little car w 350hp turbo, so i sold it and bought the vett . i had every thing i could on the mr2 and the vett is so diff. where do i start . and the sponsers arnt wanting to help this year with the new car . so it is going to all come out of my pockit.help please . i know the issues between vet and viper and this is the best place to ask
Drifting
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If you have deep pockets get a procharger set up some ccw track wheels and racing tires new set of Hotckis sway bars and some coil over shocks. Do a little practicing and you should be able to make him buy the beer when the race is over
If not just wave as he blows by you lap after lap and take some money to buy the beer. This is a way lower cost alternative but hard on the ego
If not just wave as he blows by you lap after lap and take some money to buy the beer. This is a way lower cost alternative but hard on the ego
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ok not funny
10.000 on a double or nothing bet is no slouch. with the coil overs do you remove the stock spring. i have the hot chicks sway bars comming .now i realy need help with the engine power. i can do all the work my self and the super charger is out. has to look stock . have a zo6 thans comming .just got the relpy. cam headers?. i can only do this once i figure if i build it rite ill do it one time.
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St. Jude Donor '06-'07
Try this
Remote mounted in the rear of the car.....unless he knows what to look for, he'll never be able to tell just by looking at the engine. Only killer is that he'll know once you smash the gas pedal. Has a very destinctive sound!
orrrrrrrrrrrrr, you could trade in on the New Z06 and end the discussion before the race even takes place!
Remote mounted in the rear of the car.....unless he knows what to look for, he'll never be able to tell just by looking at the engine. Only killer is that he'll know once you smash the gas pedal. Has a very destinctive sound!
orrrrrrrrrrrrr, you could trade in on the New Z06 and end the discussion before the race even takes place!
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Drifting
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10.000 on a double or nothing bet is no slouch. with the coil overs do you remove the stock spring. i have the hot chicks sway bars comming .now i realy need help with the engine power. i can do all the work my self and the super charger is out. has to look stock . have a zo6 thans comming .just got the relpy. cam headers?. i can only do this once i figure if i build it rite ill do it one time.
The word/name you are looking for is Hotchkiss 
Melting Slicks
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www.callawaycars.com
get their powergroup1 and 2 for $3500 or so - take ya to 400hp
then add the callaway cam for an added 100hp
then smoke the bastard
get their powergroup1 and 2 for $3500 or so - take ya to 400hp
then add the callaway cam for an added 100hp
then smoke the bastard
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Drifting
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You haven't seen the video posted by a fellow forum member of him running the track and completely blowing a Viper away, have you? I'm guessing if $10,000 is the bet, modding it won't be a problem.
Bring it to MTI or another reputable shop and tell them what you want and they'll deliver! Easiest way.
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Look on the bright side...at least you didn't challenge him to a spelling contest.
Just breakin' ***** man. How come the car needs to look stock? You agreed to that? Stock base C5s do not run with Vipers, BTW.
Yes, coilovers replace the stock transverse leaf spring. Do not waste $ on CCW or other big name wheels unless you get bling points. Get a set of Z06 wheels and buy good race rubber.
DO you know the track (RA)? DO you have many track miles in the car? If not, that's a more productive way to spend the $ toward better lap times than power mods. G/L
Just breakin' ***** man. How come the car needs to look stock? You agreed to that? Stock base C5s do not run with Vipers, BTW.
Yes, coilovers replace the stock transverse leaf spring. Do not waste $ on CCW or other big name wheels unless you get bling points. Get a set of Z06 wheels and buy good race rubber.
DO you know the track (RA)? DO you have many track miles in the car? If not, that's a more productive way to spend the $ toward better lap times than power mods. G/L
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St. Jude Donor '07
If you have deep pockets get a procharger set up some ccw track wheels and racing tires new set of Hotckis sway bars and some coil over shocks. Do a little practicing and you should be able to make him buy the beer when the race is over
If not just wave as he blows by you lap after lap and take some money to buy the beer. This is a way lower cost alternative but hard on the ego
If not just wave as he blows by you lap after lap and take some money to buy the beer. This is a way lower cost alternative but hard on the ego
A stock C5 vs your buddy's viper...you are screwed without some sort of pick me up under the engine bay and in the suspension department. Go have fun, remember that he paid a bunch more money for the viper and you can buy the beer and laugh at what you thought of his az$ end of his car.
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i could very well do that but he watches the car every day and it is suspost to be stock v stock but every one knows that is not going to be the case .we agree that the exhaust can be changed and and the air intake can be changed . the bilstins were on the car so they can stay . the way i see it is if he cant see it or here it. its game. so . and the 10.000$ was from a 5.000that i lost with a fully modded toy mr2 turbo w 350 hp. would pass him in the turnes but he would kill me down the strait.i would run out of gear . so i lost and made a double or nothing . this is all of my mad money for the last year . and dont want to use it to mod the car and lose the car so i have to spend very wisely and really only want relevent help please.
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I am already registered for Road Atlanta March 4th. Is that when you are running? If so, which Group? As others have said, stock C5 vs a Viper...no way; however, I will be happy to kick his butt for you. 
BTW...power & handling are important; however, driving skill is an important factor. How many laps have you run at Road Atlanta compared to him?
BTW...power & handling are important; however, driving skill is an important factor. How many laps have you run at Road Atlanta compared to him?
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You also need some seat time in the Vette on track if you've driven a Mister Two on track. The Vette will not have some of the issues that the MR2 has with its mid-engine setup. The Vette does not snap spin like an MR2. But the Vette has its flaws too. So does the Viper.
According to your rules get some LT headers with high flow cats and x-pipe fed into high flow mufflers. One of the many CAI packages out there will work. Then get it dyno tuned. It'll get you more grunt but not enough for that long back straight. You would need to do cam/head work which he can't see.
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T5 at over 100 was my undoing.
No matter how much you put into the car, unless you HAVE EXPERIENCE DRIVING ROAD ATLANTA, you will be in trouble.
Road Atlanta is not for neophites. or anyone who thinks they know how to drive.
Many a professional race car driver has had challanges at Road Atlanta.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1554059
No matter how much you put into the car, unless you HAVE EXPERIENCE DRIVING ROAD ATLANTA, you will be in trouble.
Road Atlanta is not for neophites. or anyone who thinks they know how to drive.
Many a professional race car driver has had challanges at Road Atlanta.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1554059
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