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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 07:32 AM
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I am strictly a coupe man because I like the removeable roof. Sooo, does this mean I can't get the 405hp of the Z06 without doing mods? Is the 350 the only engine that comes in the coupe? thanks...tom
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 07:39 AM
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I am strictly a coupe man because I like the removeable roof. Sooo, does this mean I can't get the 405hp of the Z06 without doing mods? Is the 350 the only engine that comes in the coupe? thanks...tom

Yes, that engine is unique to the Z06. With the right money though, that HP is easily attainable.
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 07:42 AM
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I am strictly a coupe man because I like the removeable roof. Sooo, does this mean I can't get the 405hp of the Z06 without doing mods? Is the 350 the only engine that comes in the coupe? thanks...tom
You can dyno tune your car for about 3-400 and get more HP out of what you have.

But to get 400 it will take many mods, specificly heads and cam, plus headers, CAI, which I have done for my coupe
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 07:56 AM
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Check out the post, to those who did cams, headers, exhaust etc.
A wealth of good info there.
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 08:11 AM
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Only way, other than getting a C6 which is 400 HP, is to do mods.
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 08:39 AM
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With the right amount of $$$ you can get what ever you want.

Just remember, the selection of a special engine for the Z06 is just a GM marketing ploy. If that engine & suspension pkg was offered in the Coupe & Vert, there would be less demand for the FRC.
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 08:59 AM
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The LS6 is specific to the Z06 (same block as the coupe or vert. with different heads and cam). You can get to 400 HP (at the crank shaft) without opening the engine though. A good set of long tube headers, high flow cats, X-pipe, cat back; and a better intake Vararam, Blackwing, Callaway, etc; and a good tune will put you around the 400 HP mark.

If you want 400HP at the rear wheels, you're going to have to either go forced induction or change the heads and cam.

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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Sully C5
With the right amount of $$$ you can get what ever you want.

Just remember, the selection of a special engine for the Z06 is just a GM marketing ploy. If that engine & suspension pkg was offered in the Coupe & Vert, there would be less demand for the FRC.
I think theres alot more to it than you say here. The demand for the FRC Vette is BECAUSE theres an LS6 under the hood. The entire Z06 package, lighter weight,suspension,engine,exhaust,MN12 etc. is what helps the demand for the FRC/ZO6. Theres far less demand foe a NON Z06 FRC.

Theres a long history of the Z06 way before the 5th generation Vettes ever came on the scene. I disagree that its a "marketing ploy" You got alot more car for the money when choosing the ZO6 option. Simply adding the ZO6 parts to the LS1 engine & suspension doesnt make it a ZO6.
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here's 400+ rwhp on a A4 vert
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Originally Posted by 81c3
Theres a long history of the Z06 way before the 5th generation Vettes ever came on the scene. I disagree that its a "marketing ploy" You got alot more car for the money when choosing the ZO6 option. Simply adding the ZO6 parts to the LS1 engine & suspension doesnt make it a ZO6.
It's funny because the coupe actually has better areodynamics. The GM race team did not use the FRC for the C5R. The reason the Z06 was in demand is for the power & handling. If that option was made available for the coupe, demand for the Z06 would be significantly less. Have you notice that (performance-wise) the C6 coupe goes head-to-head with the C5 Z06 and there is no longer an FRC. The Z06 could have been an option rather than a line extension...the reason it wasn't is $$$.

There have been thousands upon thousands of Z06's sold. When I am at the track, I see a handfull of C5 Corvettes (all three models) actually racing. Unfortunately, the majority of Corvettes are owned for bragging rights, not racing. And for those of us who do race, many of the 'stock' components (even the Z06) have to be replaced to make the car competitive.
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[QUOTE=Sully C5; for those of us who do race, many of the 'stock' components (even the Z06) have to be replaced to make the car competitive.[/QUOTE]

If everyone ran stock, then the ZO6 would pound the competition. Thats kinda what my point is here. I appreciate modding & racing. I also think that the ZO6 in its factory form was a world class supercar just the way it was. By todays standards, its a little dated,(performance wise) but still holds its own well. To even be considered against a new C6/Z51 is honorable in itself. IMO, GM made a good decision by making the ZO6 a line extension & not just an option in any other Vette. All carmakers have a flagship, it just so happens the flagship of the Corvette was the ZO6, not the coupe nor the convertable.

Just for the record here, I'm in no way trying to argue with you, or being confrontational. I just like to discuss Vettes.
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 02:48 PM
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I wanted the coupe because of the top...thats what sold me on the vette. Getting 400 horse is pretty easy. intake, headers, and tune and you are there. Then get the Z swway bars and you are about the same...besides gearing which is minimal
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 03:23 PM
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More room for nitrous bottles in the coupe!!
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 03:39 PM
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Just for the record here, I'm in no way trying to argue with you, or being confrontational. I just like to discuss Vettes.
Ditto that!

For me it's a discussion about perception. If we all agreed, then everyone would be driving a MagRed Convertible, like me. LOL

BTW I am not demeaning the Z06, for the price it is a great sportscar. All I was saying is that GM's decision is based $$$.
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Originally Posted by 81c3
I think theres alot more to it than you say here. The demand for the FRC Vette is BECAUSE theres an LS6 under the hood. The entire Z06 package, lighter weight,suspension,engine,exhaust,MN12 etc. is what helps the demand for the FRC/ZO6. Theres far less demand foe a NON Z06 FRC.
There would also be far less demand for a FRC Z06 if you could get the Z06 on coupes and convertibles. Most Vette buyers don't want a FRC.

Originally Posted by 81c3
Theres a long history of the Z06 way before the 5th generation Vettes ever came on the scene.
Yeah, and it was an option, not another model. And a rare and essentially irrelevant option at that, built strictly to get around the silly rules of sports car sanctioning bodies.

Originally Posted by 81c3
Simply adding the ZO6 parts to the LS1 engine & suspension doesnt make it a ZO6.
That's right, adding all the parts to a coupe makes it better than a Z06. Better looking, better aerodynamics, higher top speed, more luggage/nitrous space, AND you can get a clear top or take the top out! Clearly the superior car!

All said with a smile, just good-natured banter among friends, so don't get mad. But there are good reasons I didn't get a Z06, and it wasn't because I wanted to settle for less.
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Well since it's all good natured banter...

I didn't want a coupe or a convertible. I owned 2 C4s in the past and they were both coupes. I rarely "popped the top". I'm not into the "wind in your hair" thing. Just a personal choice. So not having a removable or drop top is of no value to me. In fact I like the FRC more because I don't have to worry about the removable top or the extra seals needed. My C4 flexed enough with the pop top that I would have just as soon had it as an FRC.

I got the Z06 because it was already built with the things I wanted. It is almost track ready out of the box. For track use I've added an oil cooler and brake duct extensions. Then for track weekends I throw in the race pads and put on the r-comps. The capability of the car is beyond my skills and beyond the skills of most owners. So there is not a lot more I want to do to it to serve my needs. $ for $ out of the box it beats up many higher priced sports cars from across the pond.

I'd agree that the majority of owners prefer a removable top of some sort. So I'm glad the C5 Z06 is based on the FRC. Now that is not to say that I wouldn't want a C6 Z06 because GM mistakenly used a couple this time around
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Originally Posted by Sully C5
Ditto that!

For me it's a discussion about perception. If we all agreed, then everyone would be driving a MagRed Convertible, like me. LOL

BTW I am not demeaning the Z06, for the price it is a great sportscar. All I was saying is that GM's decision is based $$$.
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Originally Posted by Gannet;All said with a smile, just good-natured banter among friends, so don't get mad. But there are good reasons I [i
didn't[/i] get a Z06, and it wasn't because I wanted to settle for less.
THEEE only time I get mad on this forum is when someone starts namecalling. Otherwise, its all what were here for, discussion of a common bond that we all pationately share.

I had an 89 coupe, a 94 convert 6speed & now my Z. I have been lucky & fortunate enough to try one of each (even if it was different gens). To me, I like the close interior quarters the FRC gives me. I think the lines of the car are beautiful & clean. Being a ZO6 is just an added bonus for me
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