now thats service

 

I have sent you a PM regarding your car.

 

Thank you very much Mr. Jackson, I sent you a couple PMs back and talked to GMPP myself. I talked to the original Owner and he told me the clutch had been replaced recently, but I did not know it had been replaced 4k miles before I bought it.

I am not sure of the veracity of his claims anymore, and am curious myself what is going on with the car since I have only put around 5k on the car myself and this is the second time it has been into the dealership to get something fixed!

 

Everything will work out.

 

My heart is broken...

Just got a call from the dealership, apparently there was some sort of catastrophic failure inside and the bell housing is cracked and perforated, possibly in more than one place.

They are telling me it is going to cost in the thousands (especially at $130/hr labor)... I am just praying that GMPP will cover whatever went wrong and I am not left up the creek without a paddle.

My only symptom was the fading clutch pedal!?!?

 

Sorry to hear that. But remembering back to your earlier post:

Will be very interesting to learn the outcome.

You would think that status at the time of sale of "GM Certified" should mean something.

Their description reads like the pressure plate or clutch disc came apart. So the clutch manufacturer should be interest also. Textralia has been very supportive when owner issues arise. So I would suggest contacting them quickly. Also would contact the previous owner.

Again, not a good outcome so far. Hope GM steps up. Let us know.

PM me a phone number if you'd like to discuss this.

Ranger

 

Sorry to hear the news

It is time for gmpp to step up and do the right thing.

How do you crack a bell housing ? certified car = gmpp PAYS!!!

Good luck with it

Hang in , it'll work out

 

Well I am now wondering if it even has the Textralia in it! It may be just an LS6 clutch that was installed improperly and mimicking a Tex. I do not trust the previous owner at all. The last time the car went into the dealership it was because the MIL came on and the thermostat got stuck open, while I was going to change the t-stat myself I noticed that the crank pulley had walked and sprayed oil out of the crank snout... That makes me think the original crank pulley was replaced with an old crank bolt or not TTY right. Meaning that the crank pulley was off for some reason like an UD pulley install or a cam install that I was not told about. EDIT: I forgot to mention I did not notice until I got the car home and parked it next to a friends stock C5 that the car had also been lowered. I am pretty sure it is lowered on the stock bolts though which isn't really an aftermarket modification.

This all leads me to believe there are things I don't know about the car that is, at this point, really beginning to worry me.

I am not going to bother Textralia until I am told it is an aftermarket clutch that was put in by another dealership (which did the clutch replacement at ~25.5).

BTW, just for clarification, the clutch was replaced at ~25.5k by a Chevrolet Dealer (not Boardwalk or the Dealer I bought the car from), I bought the car with 29k, and the car currently has 34,866 on the clock.

I hope so, but they are telling me they are unsure if GMPP will cover it...

I am not sure what could have happened other than improper installation that would cause the disk to grenade, or maybe a bolt or something was left to wander around inside... They quoted me $1300 just to tear it down at $130/hr, and I almost feel like I am being held hostage.

I no longer have a daily driver, and all I have left is the 600+ hp 79k mile Camaro that the wife and I did all of the work on and have never had a problem with.

This was specifically why I left the Corvette untouched, barring a shift ****, partition, stainless steel inserts ("Corvette"), and some chrome stock style wheels. I did not want to have to worry about the Vette in case our Camaro breaks... Kind of ironic in a way...

EDIT: I keep editing this post because I see things I need to clarify... I don't believe the previous owner because of what I have seen and the situation above with the crank pulley is one of those situations. I bought the car and spent more money on it because it was GM Certified. I bought it for a little peice of mind, which I must admit to being elusive at this point. This is the first Corvette for me, first one I have driven, first one I have even been in. I love the car when it is drivable.

 

Yet another reason I've never bought an aftermarket/optional warranty. They're totally dealer profit. For that matter, my car's never been in for dealer service, but that's just me knowing the local Chevy dealer. Come to think of it, back when I got the car, there was a recall, and I took it in, but the dealer's service rep said they couldn't work on the car because it was too low! That was BEFORE I lowered it on the bolts. CYA, dealer.

I really wish you luck, it's heartbreaking to get the car of your dreams, and pay for an extended warranty, and fear getting the shaft.

 

I know that GM is not responsible for the previous owner changing things; but I also bought this specific car because of their Certified assurance. I did not know at the time I bought it that it might have any aftermarket parts on it. Matter of fact I bought the car because I presumed that it was a pampered car that GM had put their stamp of approval on. Maybe ***umption is a better word since I am starting to feel like that is where I am going to be taking my clutch dilema... I was a hardcore Ford guy before we bought our Camaro. When I bought the Corvette my car was a F150 I had bought brand new with an extended warranty from Ford that I paid comparable to my GMPP, that covered everything down to the brake pads and windshield wipers until the truck had 80k on the clock. I gave that truck to my younger brother with 55k on it, and not a single problem.

I have never experienced a clutch (or other internal part enough to Swiss cheese the bell housing from the description I was given) blowing to smithereens in ~9k miles in a stock car with daily driving.

Maybe dreams are meant to be elusive, like piece of mind?

 

This thread makes me so very glad I DON'T Have a warrantee on my 2002. Chevy dealers and their sales tactics and their service totally suck. I cannot see why anyone would want to pay extra for a car so they could have the pleasure of spending time messing with those bastards. I do feel for the original poster and if GMPP is not going to cover this I would get it in writing and then get the car out of that dealership ASAP.
Jeff

 

It will all be spelled out in the fine print. I'd bet there are disclaimers that will leave you in the lurch ...

 

Interesting... might want to lawyer up depending on how the interactions go. You'll have to read the fine pring on what GM certified means when it comes to aftermarket parts etc.

I'd say you have a case... you wanted a stock car, bought a certified car with a warranty.

GM is effectively endorsing the entire car as it sits... clutch and all. It would be on them to not certify the car if the clutch voided that certification.

I say you may be good to go, but not w/o a fight.

 

To be fair, GMPP has not made any determination yet whether it is covered or not.

Boardwalk is just looking out for their time as well, which I understand, but I am just a little skeptical about it since they are putting me against the wall and not waiting for GM's determination. I want to know what is going on, so I made a huge mistake and signed for the estimate to diagnose what was going on... Should wait for GM to make a determination, but again I feel like I am being held hostage.

Thanks all for reading and posting regarding my situation.

 

PM Sent

Thanks,

 

Jack,

Call me I have the GM service rep here right now and I have a couple of questions for you. 650-568-5360

thanks,

Carl

 

Despite my wording I am not blaming Boardwalk for anything. Let me set the record straight, I don't necessarily think they are doing anything wrong at all. I am just between a rock and a hard place and facing a lot of cost in repair bills for a car I have barely had for 6 months and 5k miles.

Please forgive my erratic thoughts on this matter, I do believe that Boardwalk is trying their best, and have been great people to deal with thus far. My panic asside, this is just one FUBAR, situation.

So my apologies to Carl and Boardwalk. I can't blame them for the work of another Dealership, or for my Corvette deciding to commit Seppuku...

 

If the car is "GM Certified" and GMPP is in effect, then it should not matter which dealer sold you the car and which dealer is doing the repair. The entire responsibility rests with GM, rather than a specific dealer.

Regarding the clutch, if the clutch friction surfaces were worn out, that may be fair wear-and-tear, and repair costs on the owner of the car.

But if the pressure plate or clutch disc breaks apart, whether catastropically or not (the bell housing is said to be ruptured), then that's a parts failure that ought to be covered under GMPP. And that should be the case even if the clutch is not stock.

How the heck is a buyer of a "GM Certified" car to know what clutch is in the car? The buyer bases his purchase decision on the representations of the GM-dealer and his examination of the car.

With that as background, a lot of board members will watch with interest how this case is resolved. In the balance hangs the credibility of the trademarked term "GM Certified."

One man's opinion.

Ranger

 

 

Any more updates?