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Old Jun 16, 2007 | 03:00 AM
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He is working tonight, this is his wife(Mrs. Azrael).. but I can let y'all know that when he called about the car today, they were still tearing it down.. so probably wont know anything for sure until tomorrow.. but probably the beginning of the week, as we are not sure what the service department works on Sat. But I am sure he will let everyone on here know what we find out.. it is just a waiting game right now..
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Old Jun 16, 2007 | 03:29 PM
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Wow, never saw one like that.

Good luck getting warranty, I would figure whatever warranty you have, that they'll probably try to blame it on severe usage or hitting something.

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Old Jun 16, 2007 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Z064FUN
Any more updates?
I figure I am not going to hear anything until Monday at the earliest. I am sort of dismayed since the Corvette was my daily driver and leaves us in the lurch in regards to transportation now.

Originally Posted by froggy47
Wow, never saw one like that.

Good luck getting warranty, I would figure whatever warranty you have, that they'll probably try to blame it on severe usage or hitting something.

I have always been worried that they will refuse to cover the damage, especially since the whole quote just to tear it apart and see what happened is now way beyond what it would have cost for me to replace the clutch and everything myself.

Although the more I think about it the more that logic would escape me since clutches wear out and slip, they shouldn't explode. The car has never seen the track, has not been opened up for any power mods (not even an air intake), has not been mistreated by me (no burnouts, no powershifting, etc which is verifiable by inspecting the car and not finding the tell-tale signs, like rubber in the wheel well; and making the leap of logic that I am a police officer by night and street racer by day, which in itself is counter-intuitive). It wasn't like the clutch or pressure plate wore out through usage, it grenaded, which is a parts failure. Also by looking at the damage it is very obvious it happened from the inside out (not like hitting something would cause either of the internal parts to catastrophically come apart anyway).

This clutch has about 9k miles on it, it was installed 4k miles before I bought the car by a Chevrolet dealership. I am not trying to bring my track car in here and ask for a free lunch, the Z06 was my daily driver; the car we got to use to keep miles off the Camaro that has enough power to break anything at any time. I paid extra for the Z06 because it was GM Certified, and eligible for a GM extended warranty. I know GMPP does not cover wear on the clutch, and had the clutch just stopped working because it was slipping so bad I would have just replaced it myself. I thought this was a hydraulics failure because the clutch wasn't slipping, it just would not disengage...

Oh well, I still don't have any answers, don't have any other car (GMPP probably has not even looked at it); and therefore that big promise of a rental vehicle if your vehicle is down more that 2 hours is still also an elusive proposition... After all Chevrolet has only had the car for two days...

I am not blaming the Dealer, because I am taking their word they are on my side. Yet I am still stuck between the rock and the hard place.

Thanks for letting me vent.
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Old Jun 16, 2007 | 06:37 PM
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Hang in there. I've never seen a clutch explode like that at stock power levels. The fact that it was previously replaced at a dealership works in your favor. Good luck to ya
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Old Jun 16, 2007 | 06:56 PM
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Hang in there. I've never seen a clutch explode like that at stock power levels. The fact that it was previously replaced at a dealership works in your favor. Good luck to ya

I must say I did expect more people to just come in and say "Suck it up whiner, you bought, you got it..." I do appreciate the support!

I must say though that despite my poor wording besmirching their name Boardwalk has been great with me, and as I see it they have as thankless a job with customer service as I do. No one is ever happy, and the only time they see you or have contact with you is when something has gone wrong.

With that in mind I commiserate with the plight of the service advisor and manager; since they do have a lot in common with my own chosen profession (Law Enforcement).
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Old Jun 17, 2007 | 01:09 PM
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I wonder if the dealer clutch job was done incorrectly, some fastener not torqued to spec or something along those lines. Not to bash dealers, but, I have had lots of crap work done over years (and had to have them do over).

Keep us posted.

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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 08:02 PM
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Default Update sort of...

Monday and no real answers, other than "Everything in there was gutted..."

Still waiting for GM to decide if they will cover it, but I did get a 99.9% sure they will from the dealership.

That is about it... I was told they should know more tomorrow and maybe start ordering parts Wednesday. I may not see my car again until a week from Wednesday.
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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 07:39 PM
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Default Wednesday Update...

I am being told the official cause of the failure was a flywheel bolt backing out and rattling around inside the bellhousing. Took out the flywheel, clutch disk, pressure plate, slave cylinder, starter, and the bellhousing itself.

The dealership has been awesome, and GM has formally decided to cover everything except the clutch; which the service advisor states will be covered once it is approved by the GM area representative. So it is not totally official yet that GM is covering the clutch; which the dealership (service tech, service advisor) both agree was destroyed by a covered part coming apart and not "wear and tear".

So I still have a knot in the pit of my stomach...
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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 07:44 PM
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So it sounds like you will be ok, happy ending.

Sloppy work by the last tech that was in there, see my prediction post above, what else is new.

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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by froggy47
So it sounds like you will be ok, happy ending.

Sloppy work by the last tech that was in there, see my prediction post above, what else is new.

It looks that way, but I am not counting my chickens before they hatch...

You were absolutely right though, not that I am too shocked...
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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 07:57 PM
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So far so good.

The service manual specifies a precise method and sequence for torquing the flywheel bolts. There is a reason for care in those steps.

Was it announced whether the hosed clutch is stock or aftermarket?

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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Ranger
So far so good.

The service manual specifies a precise method and sequence for torquing the flywheel bolts. There is a reason for care in those steps.

Was it announced whether the hosed clutch is stock or aftermarket?

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The Advisor didn't know, he told me he would ask the tech and let me know tomorrow. I have a feeling now it was a stock LS6 clutch installed improperly...

EDIT: Just got off the phone, and he is saying it is a stock LS6 clutch.

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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 08:03 PM
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When a covered part fails and directly causes the failure of an uncovered part, both are covered. You are fine. I've dealt with this on my car before. Slave went south, new clutch covered under warranty even though it is a wear part by GMPP.

Word of advice: with GMPP, only those parts directly listed as being covered are in fact covered. If it isn't listed as being covered, it isn't. I know for a reason. With the exception listed above.

2nd advice: Install the CLB before it is too late.
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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Goody
When a covered part fails and directly causes the failure of an uncovered part, both are covered. You are fine. I've dealt with this on my car before. Slave went south, new clutch covered under warranty even though it is a wear part by GMPP.

Word of advice: with GMPP, only those parts directly listed as being covered are in fact covered. If it isn't listed as being covered, it isn't. I know for a reason. With the exception listed above.

2nd advice: Install the CLB before it is too late.
CLB recall sticker was on the car when I got it. I actually looked for that when shopping...
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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 08:31 PM
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I don't want to hijack your thread with a tangent:
Maybe I need to do more research on this because my understanding is the recall just reprograms the car to kill the fuel so it cannot be driven if the wheel is locked. It does not prevent failure of the column lock device. I'd remove the whole system in mine if I new it wouldn't cause more issues than it solves.
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 05:02 PM
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Default Friday update

Just got a call from the service manager at Boardwalk. Apparently GMPP will cover everything except some "bearings" that I have to pay for, to the tune of about $400 ($200 deductible).

They are telling me it is a $7,000.00 job... Maybe with the labor... Anyway they are ordering parts today. May get to see my car late next week.
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Man, Please don't do that again. I have been sitting here for hours waiting and waiting for your words to appear on the screen. This is getting tiring. At first, I thought it was the slow servers. Then I went to lunch, then a coffee break. Finally, you explained what happened.
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Azrael Z06
Just got a call from the service manager at Boardwalk. Apparently GMPP will cover everything except some "bearings" that I have to pay for, to the tune of about $400 ($200 deductible).

They are telling me it is a $7,000.00 job... Maybe with the labor... Anyway they are ordering parts today. May get to see my car late next week.
You must be living right, man. Hope you do well at the dealer.
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Good outcome, Azrael Z06.

Glad GM, GMPP, the area rep, and the dealer treated you well.

Remember to break-in and look after the new clutch....Taking Care of Your Clutch

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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Ranger
Good outcome, Azrael Z06.

Glad GM, GMPP, the area rep, and the dealer treated you well.

Remember to break-in and look after the new clutch....Taking Care of Your Clutch

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Yeah everyone has been great! The clutch will be taken care of!

I'll probably not touch this thread again until I get the car back, unless something comes up.

Take it easy all!
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