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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 11:06 PM
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I received a ticket in my C5 Vette back in late March. Lidar (even a Valentine One wouldn't have saved me) Local cop nailed me in a 35 @ 52. Violation of CVC22350. Well, I decided to contest it and requested a Trial by Written Declaration and submitted my defense and Statement of Facts on May 29th. Today in the mail I received the judgment. Bailment to be refunded within 6 weeks.
My record stays clean.
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 11:07 PM
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 11:07 PM
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Great- What did you say in your statement?
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 11:14 PM
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 11:17 PM
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Just what was your defence ?
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by MagneticRed1977
Great- What did you say in your statement?
STATEMENT OF FACTS
Defendant's Name: Don
Case No.: X 0000
I respectfully submit this written declaration to the Court pursuant to CVC 40902. I plead Not Guilty to the charge of violating CVC 22350.
The facts of my case are as follows: While driving on SR166 on 03-27-07, at approximately 5:41am, I was stopped by a Maricopa Officer (I.D. #XXXX) and was charged with violating CVC 22350. The Officer has alleged that I was driving 52mph in a 35mph zone based on Radar evidence. I believe that even if I was driving that speed at the time of my stop, my speed was quite safe for the prevailing conditions.
The Basic Speed Law, CVC 22350 states: "No person shall drive a vehicle upon a highway at a speed greater than is reasonable or prudent having due regard for weather, visibility, the traffic on, and the surface and width of the highway, and in no event at a speed which endangers the safety of persons or property."
At the time of my stop, the road was dry and clear with very light traffic. On my citation, the officer marks that the traffic was "light." No persons or property were put at risk. As such, the Officer does not make a credible case that I was in violation of the Basic Speed Law.
Further, I believe that the posted speed of 35mph on SR166 is artificially low, reflecting an out-of-date traffic and engineering survey and, as such, may constitute an illegal Speed Trap pursuant to CVC 40802(a)(2) which defines an illegal radar speed trap as: "A particular section of a highway with a...speed limit that is provided by this code...[which] limit is not justified by an engineering and traffic survey conducted within five years prior to the date of the alleged violation, and enforcement of the speed limit involves the use of radar or any other electronic device that measures the speed of moving objects." If the traffic survey on SR166 is more than five years old, the officer's use of radar to determine my speed was illegal.
When using radar evidence, the prosecution is required to prove that the use of radar is not an illegal speed trap. Speed Trap Evidence 40803(b) states: "In any prosecution under this code of a charge involving the speed of a vehicle, where enforcement involves the use of radar or other electronic devices which measure the speed of moving objects, the prosecution shall establish, as part of its prima facie case, that the evidence or testimony presented is not based upon a speed trap as defined in paragraph (2) of subdivision (a) of Section 40802."

If the prosecution does not attach proof with its written declaration (a certified copy of the speed survey) to establish as part of its prima facie case, that SR166 is not an illegal Speed Trap, as they are required to do pursuant to CVC 40803(b), I trust the Court will rule the radar evidence inadmissible and dismiss my case pursuant to CVC 40805.
CVC 40805, Admission of Speed Trap Evidence, states: "Every court shall be without jurisdiction to render a judgment of conviction against any person for violation of this code involving the speed of a vehicle if the court admits any evidence or testimony secured in violation of, or which is inadmissible under this article."
I trust in the Court's fairness and ask that my citation be dismissed in the interest of justice.
I declare under penalty of perjury under the laws of the State of California that the foregoing is true and correct.
Date: May 25, 2007



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Don, Defendant in Pro Per

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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 11:23 PM
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Glad everything worked out for you
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 11:24 PM
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wow.....
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 11:29 PM
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Hey Don: what are you...a lawyer or somthing?
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 11:34 PM
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Impressive
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by VettRick
Hey Don: what are you...a lawyer or somthing?
yea, very well worded and someone did their homework
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 11:37 PM
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not tryin to hijack your thread or anything but i got lucky as heck myself just yesterday.. got pulled over in a 35 doin 48 and i couldnt evn find my proof of insurance.. he just said 'this is a nice car and i bet its got some power but keep the speed down and go print a copy of your proof of insurance' .. i swear my gf had to have flashed him when i wasnt lookin haha
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by cdg2000c5
not tryin to hijack your thread or anything but i got lucky as heck myself just yesterday.. got pulled over in a 35 doin 48 and i couldnt evn find my proof of insurance.. he just said 'this is a nice car and i bet its got some power but keep the speed down and go print a copy of your proof of insurance' .. i swear my gf had to have flashed him when i wasnt lookin haha
Lucky yes.. but you know the drill.... No pics??? Com'on!!
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by VettRick
Hey Don: what are you...a lawyer or somthing?
Definitely not a lawyer. Just found what I was looking for on Mr. Gore's invention, changed and added a few words to fit my situation, and ........................prayed.
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 11:47 PM
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Ta' daaa one for the good guys,,, now slow down till it is time not to
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Silverbullet00
Ta' daaa one for the good guys,,, now slow down till it is time not to
I was slowing down. There was a STOP sign ahead.
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 11:53 PM
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Nice work, 2KFRC5

Being a California resident myself, I hope you don't mind if I plagiarize this... provided you don't sue me
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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 12:06 AM
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Good for you!

So many citations go uncontested. If people only knew the law.

PS You have a PM.
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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 12:27 AM
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Very nicely done. You are to be congratulated on conscisely and lucidly stating the facts of your case in the interest of justice. I was just told about this style of defense last week. Very timely info...
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