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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 04:11 PM
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My stocker has just about bit the dust. It won't hold a charge for several weeks like I need it to - travel this time of year is killer for me, and the poor car has to sit. I have a Red Top in my '71 that sits for weeks at a time and always fires right up, but when I looked for something similar for the '04 (which is a top post, not side post like earlier models) the battery books show nothing at all. Nada. Who here has replaced your '04 battery and what did you use? Thanks!

EDIT - I just checked the Interstate Batteries web site and they list the battery for an '04 as "Discontinued". I found a replacement battery from Apex (who?) for $202.99 !!! There has GOT to be another option...

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I had a Red Top when my car was a DD. It sat idle on the boat to England for 2 months and died. No great surprise with the draw from the vette.

I now have a Yellow Top which copes much better with irregular use. I also hook it up to a battery tender when its not in use.

I'm happy with it

Heres a poll I ran if you want to see how the various batteries have performed. Nearly 600 votes now.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1469503

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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 04:17 PM
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I've been using a good old die hard for a couple of years. It's been perfect!! My car sits for several weeks at a time during the winter and always starts right up.
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DeeGee, I had considered the Yellow and Red Tops both, but again, my car is an '04. It has the funky top post battery cables and I'm mostly curious if anyone has used these in their '04 - are the posts in the same location as the stocker? I wonder since the Interstate and Optima battery catalogs did not list a "replacement" or even an "alternate" battery for my car, but certainly did for the '03 and prior...
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 08:15 PM
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My optima has both side post which I use on my 03 and there are also top standard post which I dont use....Whats is the problem ...
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I've installed regular Red Tops - model 75/35 and Yellow tops 34/78 in '04 without any problem. Simply bend the end of the battery cable straight so that you can install it on the battery. You won't even need a pliers - the metal is pretty easy to bend.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 08:52 PM
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I prefer the Excide Orbital. NTB or Napa dealers sell them, or check out remybattery.com. They will ship to your door.

I've read too many posts with red and yellow top problems. It seems they don't build them like they used to. I prefer to drive my car not push it. So........... I now use Excide. David
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Originally Posted by Gray Weasel
My optima has both side post which I use on my 03 and there are also top standard post which I dont use....Whats is the problem ...
Well, the problem is that the major battery manufacturers don't list a replacement battery for the 2004... I'm not sure if it's the box size, or the placement of the terminals, but you would THINK that if they had a battery for an application, they would advertize it. The '04's have a different connector to attach to the posts, and I didn't want to drop a couple hundy on a battery to find out it didn't fit in the tray or with the connectors. Blacksedan87 is just who I was looking for - someone who has taken a "regular" battery and installed it into the '04. Thanks Black!
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I installed the Excide Orbital series 78 in a 2004. It drops right in, uses the factory hold down. Nothing to bend or mess with. David
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Originally Posted by tellefan
I installed the Excide Orbital series 78 in a 2004. It drops right in, uses the factory hold down. Nothing to bend or mess with. David
Excellent, excellent, excellent. That is the one I had been leaning towards. Thank you!
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Has anybody tried the new Diehard Platinum in an '04?
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Originally Posted by BSiegPaint
Well, the problem is that the major battery manufacturers don't list a replacement battery for the 2004... I'm not sure if it's the box size, or the placement of the terminals, but you would THINK that if they had a battery for an application, they would advertize it. The '04's have a different connector to attach to the posts, and I didn't want to drop a couple hundy on a battery to find out it didn't fit in the tray or with the connectors. Blacksedan87 is just who I was looking for - someone who has taken a "regular" battery and installed it into the '04. Thanks Black!
I have an Optima Redtop 75-35 in my 04Z, fits perfectly into the stock battery tray using the stock battery holddown clamp:



I had to angle the terminals slightly to get them to fit (no issues other than that). The 34/78 is actually a better fit (for the terminals) but a tad heavier

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I know many people are gun-shy about lead-acid batteries, but I spoke to an AC-Delco representative not too long ago and he explained that all their lead acid battery cases have been redesigned and strengthened, especially at the terminal posts. In fact, they are so confident of their new design (done within the last few years), that they now offer a 50 month free replacement warranty - best in the business. (your part # is 86-6YR)

The Sears Platinum looks promising, but I hear that it adds quite a bit of weight. I guess time will tell if this battery is a long-lasting one. If it can do as well as my OEM AC Delco AGM battery (which now has lasted more than 6 years), it may be worth its price. Still, at $90, the AC Delco Professional series batteries represent a very good deal.

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I have had an optima Red Top which started in my grand am in 2000, and then I put it in my Blazer in 2003. You can completely drain Optima batteries hundreds of times and get a full charge back out of them. My optima is still strong today, seven years later, and have killed her completely dead about 50 times. Buy the Optima.
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Originally Posted by BSiegPaint
DeeGee, I had considered the Yellow and Red Tops both, but again, my car is an '04. It has the funky top post battery cables and I'm mostly curious if anyone has used these in their '04 - are the posts in the same location as the stocker? I wonder since the Interstate and Optima battery catalogs did not list a "replacement" or even an "alternate" battery for my car, but certainly did for the '03 and prior...
Hadn't appreciated that. I assume thats to avoid all the risks of leaking from the sde posts.

That said, both my Red Tops and Yellow Top have top posts. Looks like Larry W made it fit just fine

Maybe you could drop an E Mail to Optima and ask?

The Exide gets a good press from the poll
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Thanks, everyone! Well, I went out to get an Exide today but the three places I stopped did not have the one I needed So it was off to Sam's Club where I picked up the 34/78 Red Top and got it home. I did have to rebend the cable ends - the Optima battery posts are about 3/4" farther back than the Delco batteries, and the 78 size is a different shape than the 75 series that LarryW has. Unlike strongman Blacksedan87, I DID have to use pliers to bend them and I could not use the stock battery hold-down - the bolt is too short when you snap on the clip piece that "squares" the side of the battery. I used the Optima-supplied curved clamp and snugged it down, but it does not fit securely! Even with the clamp tight as I dared to go, I can still move the battery back and forth with little effort. So it's good for now, but I'm going to get a longer bolt than the stock hold-down bolt and replace the Optima clamp asap.

The nicest thing - even with the battery out of the car for more than 24 hours, the radio did not have to be reset. All of the presets stayed right where they were. And no "locked" message or anything that would cause me grief.

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I'm wondering whether using a Delco replacement battery would make it easier to get the GMPP to cover any damages caused by a problem with the replacement battery. If the replacement is aftermarket, I could see where the GMPP might consider the problem caused by the aftermarket battery to be the responsibility of the battery's manufacturer. If you used a Delco replacement, General Motors has no one to hold resonsible by themselves.
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Originally Posted by Gray Weasel
My optima has both side post which I use on my 03 and there are also top standard post which I dont use....Whats is the problem ...
Mine too, in fact, I think all the Optima Redtops have both side and top post mounts.
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>>>The nicest thing - even with the battery out of the car for more than 24 hours, the radio did not have to be reset. All of the presets stayed right where they were. And no "locked" message or anything that would cause me grief.<<<

My presets stayed as well but I had to enter my code to unlock the radio. Apparently you haven't activated the Theftloc on the radio.
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Apparently you haven't activated the Theftloc on the radio.
Right-o. I figure if they can steal this thing, they can have it!
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