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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 09:43 PM
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My '03 Z threw a check engine light on me. Thanks to info found on this forum I was able to pull the code. It's P0803C in PCM which indicates a current problem with the 1-4 Upshift Solenoid Control Circuit. I've had a CAGS defeat in the car for 4 years with no problem. I went ahead and cleared the code and that got rid of the Check Engine light. However, while the code immediately reappeared, the Check Engine light did not. Does it take a number of events or a time frame before the codes translate into a light or is it perhaps natural for me to get the code with the CAGS defeat in and my prior Check Engine light was a fluke? Do the CAGS defeat things go bad? TIA
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 10:21 PM
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Your CAGS module may have burnt out - it's in a high heat area. If you have a tuner in your area, go to them and have them defeat it in the computer.
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 11:48 PM
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Take the CAGS out since it's a 15 minute deal. If the codes go away, spend another $20 and be done. The CAGS, if operating properly, will not cause the car to throw codes.
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by FrogmanDave
Take the CAGS out since it's a 15 minute deal. If the codes go away, spend another $20 and be done. The CAGS, if operating properly, will not cause the car to throw codes.


Not common but sometimes the CAGS bypass does go out.
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 09:32 AM
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Your CAGS module may have burnt out - it's in a high heat area. If you have a tuner in your area, go to them and have them defeat it in the computer.
That shouldn't be the issue. If the module was truly burnt out the computer shouldn't even know it because it's been disconnected.
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 09:34 AM
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Take the CAGS out since it's a 15 minute deal. If the codes go away, spend another $20 and be done. The CAGS, if operating properly, will not cause the car to throw codes.
I'll probably do this. The question still stands, though. If a CAGS defeat is in, will that alone cause the code, even though the defeat is working correctly? Or...is the defeat device supposed to provide the proper feedback to the computer so as not to throw a code? I'll submit this question to Corvettes of Houston to see what they say.
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 12:01 PM
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That shouldn't be the issue. If the module was truly burnt out the computer shouldn't even know it because it's been disconnected.
If you disconnect the CAGS wires - and leave them disconnected, the computer will set-off the CEL, and the 1-4 shift will be disabled. If you plug in a "bad" CAGS eliminator module, it does the same thing - set off CEL, and the 1-4 shift is disabled. Your module is bad.
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Originally Posted by TM-96CE
If you disconnect the CAGS wires - and leave them disconnected, the computer will set-off the CEL, and the 1-4 shift will be disabled. If you plug in a "bad" CAGS eliminator module, it does the same thing - set off CEL, and the 1-4 shift is disabled. Your module is bad.
I thought you meant the OEM shift module, not the CAGS defeat itself. COH says the bypass modules go bad pretty regular after 4-5 years so I'll just order another. He did say that the diode inside should tell the computer "everything's OK down here" so no codes should be set if it's still working correctly. Thanks for the help.
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I thought you meant the OEM shift module, not the CAGS defeat itself. COH says the bypass modules go bad pretty regular after 4-5 years so I'll just order another. He did say that the diode inside should tell the computer "everything's OK down here" so no codes should be set if it's still working correctly. Thanks for the help.
One day at the track will kill the cags defeat, it's the heat, it frys them. If you just drive easy they last a while.

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