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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 03:57 PM
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I know this is a well discussed topic. My CLB failed for the 3rd time. Called the local Chevy dealership and they are playing dumb again! Does anyone know who I can contact within Chevy to make sure this gets fixed again and I don't have to pay the bill or what "higher up" I can contact so someone's cage will get rattled so this get taken care of. Thanks for everyones help or suggestions!
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 04:41 PM
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Mine failed 3 times, twice while I owned it in 6 months. Make sure that the wire harness they are using and the locking mechanism are compatable. I belive they told me at the dealership that there is a relay on the older wire harness that is not needed and shouldbe removed. The dealer I used in NJ (Flemington Chevrolet) contacted Bowling Green (?) and they figured out what the problem was. Good Luck.

BTW the second repair cost was split 50/50 but the dealer repaired it the third time for free

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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 04:42 PM
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I assume you mean the dealer supposed "fix" for the column lock was not successful. The Column Lock Bypass is a different issue all together. If you had this installed you would not have had a problem. The dealer WILL NOT fix the problem, only band aid the problem.
GET AND INSTALL THE CLB.
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 04:59 PM
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 05:04 PM
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I didn't get my CLB from the Dealer. After reading all the millions of post on the CF about this problem, I got one of the guys from my Corvette Club to install one that he uses and no more problems. I've had it in now for 2 years......Forget the Dealer fix...................
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 06:16 PM
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Yeah tend to agree, I just ordered the CLB from Corvettes of Houston, should be here any day now. Apparently none of the GM recalls fixes the problem it keeps reoccurring. But with a CLB seems the problems are over with.

What blows me away is how little support GM and Chevrolet have given to this major issue. How little engineering they have put into solving the problems and the dealers don't want to deal with it either.

I guess we should all realize Chevrolet was created to give the average American an affordable automobile. So even though this is a $40-65K automobile, we still get the cheapest parts money (most of them are from China, Japan, or Malaysia) can buy and half-assed engineering. Between Chevrolet, GM and the government this issue will never get resolved properly and safely, the owners have to take matters into their own hands and install a by-pass to the computer signal. Thank goodness from some really creative third-party engineers to mop up and fix the problems the manufacturer creates.

If you can get it working have a CLB ready to install as it must be working to do the bypass. Someone mentioned in the interim park the vehicle and leave the wheel such that the CL doesn't set. Don't touch it getting out or in. So far this is working for me until the CLB gets here.

Good luck.
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by SLWRNU
I assume you mean the dealer supposed "fix" for the column lock was not successful. The Column Lock Bypass is a different issue all together. If you had this installed you would not have had a problem. The dealer WILL NOT fix the problem, only band aid the problem.
GET AND INSTALL THE CLB.
What he said.

If you really mean the CLB failed, then I'd have to say what failed is the installation of the CLB. If done correctly, it WILL NOT FAIL.
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Glennm27
What he said.

If you really mean the CLB failed, then I'd have to say what failed is the installation of the CLB. If done correctly, it WILL NOT FAIL.
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 06:37 PM
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I'm sure what he meant to say was...

"the dealership "fix" failed for the third time!"
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by WetteVette
I'm sure what he meant to say was...

"the dealership "fix" failed for the third time!"
Yes, thats what I meant to say. Thank you for clarifing the point for me.

Well I had my car towed to the Chevy dealership, when I got there they told me they couldn't get to it till tommorow afternoon if I was lucky. When I called GM direct to talk to customer service the Chevy dealership got really mad and told me it was 5pm they were closing and I needed to leave. What great customer service! No offer for a loaner or a ride home.

If you would have fixed it right the first time I wouldn't have to be here! They also made it a point to tell me several times that if it wasn't the recall that failed I would have to pay for tow bill myself. What a bunch of jerks! Before you even look at the car how can you say if its a recall problem or not?! Not to mention the DIC is saying its the column lock that has failed, but they wouldn't take my word for it!

I thought owning a Corvette would be a dream, but this has turned into a nightmare and no one from the dealership or GM seems to care, this is my 3rd time with this repair, when will the misery end?
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 07:47 PM
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Did you try the rocking of the wheel stop to stop, then insert key? Did you clear the codes and try the process again? Did you go ahead and start the vehicle, running it for 5 minutes above idle to put a quick charge on the battery?

Clear codes, running or not, while holding "OPTIONS", press "FUEL" four times within a 10-second period. Once it completes the auto test, press and hold the reset button until it dings and says no more codes.

Talk to the folks at Corvettes of Houston they may be able to steer you in the right direction to get it working and order bypass module while your there on the phone.

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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by SLWRNU
I assume you mean the dealer supposed "fix" for the column lock was not successful. The Column Lock Bypass is a different issue all together. If you had this installed you would not have had a problem. The dealer WILL NOT fix the problem, only band aid the problem.
GET AND INSTALL THE CLB.
This is not always the case....Many dealers are unaware of the version 3 of the recall for the column locking problem, and continue to repeat the 2nd version, which is not reliable. I have a PDF of the actual GM document for the proper recall. After the 3rd version is done, it is IMPOSSIBLE for the column to lock up. The plate in the column that the locking pin engages into is removed. There is also a relay for the fuel pump that is part of this recall, so if something does go wrong with the computer commands, your fuel will not shut down.

The Aftermarket CLB Bypass kit often talked about on the forum is MUCH more reliable than the GM bypass kit, but all it does is to interupt the signal from the computer to column lockmotor. and then it sends a return signal to the computer to make it think the lockmotor moved as instructed. If you use the CLB, then the lockmotor and the lock plate are still in the column, and under weird circumstances CAN sometimes still lock up. Also. the fuel relay problem is ignored by the CLB kit. Earlier GM recalls suck, and sadly, too many dealers DO NOT have the final recall handy. Send me your email address in a PM and I will send you the PDF of the final GM documents. 50 some pages of it! Print it out and take it to a decent Chevy dealer shop and show it to them. This is a recall, not a service bulletin, so cars in the USA have to get the recall service performed at no cost to the car owner. I suppose the ultimate solution aside from majort mechanical intervention to remove the lock motor assembly altogether, would be to use the aftermarket CLB harness kit and the 3rd version recall lockplate and relay.
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by dmoore
I thought owning a Corvette would be a dream, but this has turned into a nightmare and no one from the dealership or GM seems to care, this is my 3rd time with this repair, when will the misery end?
It is a dream to drive but you need the CLB. dealership fixes do not work.
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 10:14 PM
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It's hard to believe there are still cars out there without a CLB.
I think some were led to believe the dealer "fix" worked.
I guess they find out the truth down the road.
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Sounds like you have a really worthless dealership there. If they get the car's steering column unlocked, don't let them do anything else to the car. Get that CLB and install it yourself. Then you won't have to deal with that issue again. Oh, and BTW, find yourself a new dealership to work on your car.
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 11:35 PM
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Whats the web address for Corvettes of Houston to get the CLB?
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Originally Posted by dmoore
Whats the web address for Corvettes of Houston to get the CLB?
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http://www.corvettesofhouston.com/
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How hard is it for a novice mechanic to put in the CLB by yourself. I am not great at fixing cars. I can do oil, plug changes things like that! Think I could get it done?
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Originally Posted by dmoore
How hard is it for a novice mechanic to put in the CLB by yourself. I am not great at fixing cars. I can do oil, plug changes things like that! Think I could get it done?
Check these links out:
Photo steps how to:
http://www.ls1howto.com/index.php?article=24

Forum conversations:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...ce+column+lock

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=880276

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=965504
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Originally Posted by SLWRNU
I assume you mean the dealer supposed "fix" for the column lock was not successful. The Column Lock Bypass is a different issue all together. If you had this installed you would not have had a problem. The dealer WILL NOT fix the problem, only band aid the problem.
GET AND INSTALL THE CLB.
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