Ticketed for "Improper Start"
As these wannabe lawyers here saying fight it on a tech will just help you dig youself in deeper.
TRAFFIC SCHOOL. This is where you go to court and ask if you can do TS. If so then the ticket is dropped when you complete TS. No Points no problems.
In Nevada and some other staes you can do TS online.
PS: I don't have a lot of experience with attorneys but I think that initial consultations are typically free... at least here they are. That might be another thing that varies from one jurisdiction to another... I don't know.
Last edited by 2000_Convertible; Oct 8, 2007 at 09:33 PM.
I didn't spin tires or anything a normal driver wouldn't do...He heard my exhaust and assumed I was hualing a$$...I plan to fight this ticket in court...but does anyone have any suggestions or experience with this type of "violation"??
This same local city cop has been eyeing my Torch Red Z since June...and I guess he thought he could give me a ticket this time..
I dont know if it makes a difference or not, but the officer failed to write his name on the ticket!? I'm not sure what this means, but I'm sure it may help me get this ticket dropped...
Hopefully. lolAny comments would be appreciated!
What this means is, if he makes a mistake & there is not a statue for that offense or he puts wrong offense down...you are Not Guilty.
It's all on you but, if you go on the internet & look it up what the offense is he wrote you up for, he may have written the wrong offense.
(Example)
Someone takes off super fast, the whole nine yards.
Officer writes you up for reckless driving.....you are innocent under California law.
Why?
California law states you must be doing over 20 miles above the limit, to be considered reckless driving.
If he wrote you for exibition of speed.......Guilty, go directly to jail.
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South Carolina
ARTICLE 15
STARTING AND TURNING; SIGNALING
SECTION 56-5-2110. Starting of a vehicle.
No person shall start a vehicle which is stopped, standing or parked unless and until such movement can be made with reasonable safety.
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Does this apply to you, that is not what i'm reading.
I think officer did a oooppppsssss.
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Go to court, be polite & explain the yourself. Don't become a smart#@% about it, even if the cop is there, just continue to be polite & use yes sir, no sir. Most judges respect that & will reduce it or just dismiss it all together. Good Luck!!
PS: I don't have a lot of experience with attorneys but I think that initial consultations are typically free... at least here they are. That might be another thing that varies from one jurisdiction to another... I don't know.
bingo.
Vega$Vette: we don't even HAVE traffic school in SD, (for everyone now) nor do we have points.. nor do cops show up on first date, you just go plead guilty or not guilty and get 30 more days to pay your fine. Then the prosecutor calls you and reviews your case, offers you a plea... that's as far as I've gone in SD. The prosecutor knocked one in half and wiped the other. check with your insurance company, is going to affect your rates? If yes, fight it.. if no, consider if it's worth it and do what you feel is correct. If you weren't breaking the law, fight it, it's your right. You shouldn't have to go to traffic school for doing nothing wrong.
Chris
What if it's a Ms (with a mustache)
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Also note that a letter will typically take a week or two to get to the desk of the DA so you may need to ask for an extension on the court date. If this doesn't work, then you can use any of the other strategies mentioned.
I've never heard of an "improper start"....I've heard of exhibition of speed, but that's tire chirping, burnouts, wheelies and other erratic driving
The cop forgot to put his name on the citation. Whoopty doo. If you think that this will get you off Scott free, you're in for a short and costly court date. Just as you can change your plea, or plea to a lesser infraction, so can the courts alter a mistake on a ticket, especially something as trivial as a moving violation. A mistake on a ticket is not the same as having your civil or Miranda Rights violated, something that can get your charges thrown out of court.
If the cop put down that you were going warp factor 9, and you were only doing warp factor 4, they can change it in every court I've ever attended and continue on with the case. The only difference will be the cost of the fine. More speed equals more money you'll pay, but speeding is speeding, end of story (that goes for jack rabbit starts no matter if you hit 3000 or 6000rpm's). If the cop feels it was dangerous, then ticket in hand you will have.
Cops charge people with more serious crimes all the time and then the D.A. determines if he can get a conviction or not of those said charges. If not, they drop the ones that they feel won't fly and add any that they think will stick. This is common across the entire United States.
If you feel that a cop has your number in your city, why would you drive in a manner that would bring attention to yourself? A car with this much horsepower comes with some real responsibility and is why I'm glad I don't see 15 year olds on the road with them. There would be a lot less tress standing if there was.
As you've guessed, I'm either am a LEO or use to be one. I am the latter. However, since I left the force 18 years ago, I've been cited for speeding about 12 times. Only once did the ticket go on my record. The rest were traffic school or plead down to faulty equipment. The faulty equipment ones cost me $30 plus court cost ($129 were I live), and if I had to pay my attorney, that would have ran anywhere from $60-$90 bucks. The traffic school ones were so cheap I don't remember what they cost, but they were well worth the investment.
So as you see, I've been on both sides of the law when it comes to driving. I also do a lot work for a lot of attorneys so I always have one who owes me a favor or two. With that said, it doesn't cost much to hire an attorney to represent you in a traffic case like the one you have, and most of the time you don't even have to show up for court (I never did). If a hundred bucks seems like a lot to you, maybe you should think about a car with a lot less horsepower.
With all that said, pay an attorney to plea the case down to faulty equipment (if you can do that where you live) and pay the piper. It won't go on your record or cost you points if your state is similar to mine. Cops go to court all the time, you don't. You're going into their playground with your limited knowledge of the law, and the tables tilted in their favor. This is child's play for them and they will expose your weakness. You're going to have to pay someone, and if you go in there with your inexperience, you'll be paying three times what a lawyer would have cost.
I have fun in my car all the time and my bad cop driving habits rear their head every once in a blue moon. But I don't have any cops stalking me and I'm very cordial and respectful if I am pulled over. That gets me out of 50% of all the tickets I could have gotten. If you can't do this or have the hook ups that I have, drive like you've got some sense or pay the piper.
The choice is totally up to you.
And to Mr. Lau, yes you can get ticketed for driving slower than the flow of traffic, even if everyone else is speeding. Your impeding the flow of traffic is considered more dangerous than the speeders and that's exactly what they will site you for. It may not seem fair, but that's the way it is especially on southern California freeways were the average speed is 70 MPH, although the posted speed is 55 MPH.
Last edited by Junkman2008; Oct 9, 2007 at 12:44 AM.
What this means is, if he makes a mistake & there is not a statue for that offense or he puts wrong offense down...you are Not Guilty.
It's all on you but, if you go on the internet & look it up what the offense is he wrote you up for, he may have written the wrong offense.
(Example)
Someone takes off super fast, the whole nine yards.
Officer writes you up for reckless driving.....you are innocent under California law.
Why?
California law states you must be doing over 20 miles above the limit, to be considered reckless driving.
If he wrote you for exibition of speed.......Guilty, go directly to jail.
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23103. (a) Any person who drives any vehicle upon a highway in willful or wanton disregard for the safety of persons or property is guilty of reckless driving.
(b) Any person who drives any vehicle in any offstreet parking facility, as defined in subdivision (c) of Section 12500, in willful or wanton disregard for the safety of persons or property is guilty of reckless driving.
(c) Persons convicted of the offense of reckless driving shall be punished by imprisonment in a county jail for not less than five days nor more than 90 days or by a fine of not less than one hundred forty-five dollars ($145) nor more than one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both that fine and imprisonment, except as provided in Section 23104.
Amended Sec. 19, Ch. 739, Stats. 2001. Effective January 1, 2002.
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d11/vc23103.htm
I didn't spin tires or anything a normal driver wouldn't do...He heard my exhaust and assumed I was hualing a$$...I plan to fight this ticket in court...but does anyone have any suggestions or experience with this type of "violation"??
This same local city cop has been eyeing my Torch Red Z since June...and I guess he thought he could give me a ticket this time..
I dont know if it makes a difference or not, but the officer failed to write his name on the ticket!? I'm not sure what this means, but I'm sure it may help me get this ticket dropped...
Hopefully. lolAny comments would be appreciated!
He didn't forget to sign his name
it was intentional, and he won't be in court either! HELLO!
I didn't spin tires or anything a normal driver wouldn't do...He heard my exhaust and assumed I was hualing a$$...I plan to fight this ticket in court...but does anyone have any suggestions or experience with this type of "violation"??
This same local city cop has been eyeing my Torch Red Z since June...and I guess he thought he could give me a ticket this time..
I dont know if it makes a difference or not, but the officer failed to write his name on the ticket!? I'm not sure what this means, but I'm sure it may help me get this ticket dropped...
Hopefully. lolAny comments would be appreciated!



















id say fight it but you would prob be wasting ur time. defensive driving. darn pigs.


