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Old Nov 4, 2007 | 08:47 PM
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my time was 13.10 at 109. elevation was 6500-7500 today

what is the corecion factor?????????????
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Old Nov 4, 2007 | 09:16 PM
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you bettered your time
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Old Nov 4, 2007 | 09:18 PM
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i did better my time, thanks , but i would like to know what that would be at sea level
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Old Nov 4, 2007 | 09:35 PM
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WTF? Correction factor? There is none. Its on your timeslip.
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Old Nov 4, 2007 | 09:42 PM
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we have guys that go from here to vegas and gain 8-9 tenths off there time in the quarter mile. there was also two c6 zo6 runing 13.00 too13.50, at 110-114mph ,which is a car that runs low 11s and 120+
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WTF? Correction factor? There is none. Its on your timeslip.
yeah there is a correction factor, try running your z06 at 7000' and see if you can break 11's
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Old Nov 4, 2007 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by turboteal
my time was 13.10 at 109. elevation was 6500-7500 today

what is the corecion factor?????????????
Try this website. They have a calculator for adjusting your times to sealevel. You need to input the barometric pressure, humity, elevation and temp.
http://www.modulardepot.com/density.php
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Old Nov 4, 2007 | 10:52 PM
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thanks for the sea-level tool ,it said 11.85 at 118.9mph
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yeah there is a correction factor, try running your z06 at 7000' and see if you can break 11's
sorry, i consider correction factors = excuses.
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Yeah but it sucks being in the 12s/11s at 4500 ft and knowing the car will run low 11s/high 10s at sea level.Oh well,guess when we hit tens,THAT is moving Stock 07 Z06s here are running 13.5-13.7 at 108 ???? driver or altitude ? Have a great night !!!!
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sorry, i consider correction factors = excuses.
Then you obviously either live in Nothern California where there are GREAT tracks or you've never been to a track.

I see judging from your zip code you do live in Northern California. Do you know how many national NHRA records have been broken up there because of the better track conditions? Why not take a trip down here, then we won't have any excuses down here?

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i only know that elevation kills a NA motor,

like i said a C6 ZO6 goes 13s is pretty hard
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Originally Posted by Z06Electron
Then you obviously either live in Nothern California where there are GREAT tracks or you've never been to a track.

I see judging from your zip code you do live in Northern California. Do you know how many national NHRA records have been broken up there because of the better track conditions? Why not take a trip down here, then we won't have any excuses down here?
Are you suggesting that a sea-level corrected ET should be accepted as an official racer's posted time? I can understand estimate calculations, but at the same time its harder to drive a 405hp car than one w/285hp.
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Where are you located at that elevation? I know all about racing at elevation, and anyone who dosen't believe in correction factor should race at altitude once and see if that changes their mind!
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Originally Posted by sambandit
Where are you located at that elevation? I know all about racing at elevation, and anyone who dosen't believe in correction factor should race at altitude once and see if that changes their mind!
I drive in the moutains all the time ~6-7K ft, so I know power loss in the vette. As a pilot, I used to routinely do DA calcs for mountain flights. The loss of power is no secret. I don't think posting ET's w/correction factors is a good idea though.

If I did, I might be low 11's stock C5Z. Is that acceptable?
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Here are the official NHRA correction factors.

They correct for track altitude only not the weather.

NHRA Altitude Correction Factors

So seek out the listed track whose elevation is nearest to your venue and do the calculation.

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Old Nov 5, 2007 | 10:54 PM
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i also believe that calculations numbers should not be used for posting record times, im in albuquerque new mexcio and the track is in top of a cliff area, DA last week was 8,000 ft
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I dont think anyone posts corrected times as if they ran them, they just want to know what the correction is to compare how they are doing compared to sea level comparisons... Unfortunately too, the corrections that the NHRA uses are not accurate either. They are acurrate for elevation but not DA. The corrections for Bandimere in Denver would be correct if the DA matches the elevation, but that is never the case. The track here is 5860 ft and the best DA I have ever seen, in 10 years, is 6700 ft. It's also no secret as to why record breaking passes are made and why cars seem to run faster in certain locations than others.. Alot of tracks have up to -1500 ft DA in the fall and spring.
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Oh, and to answer the original question, from lots of experience, going from 6000-7000 DA to 0 DA will be worth about 8-10 tenths and 10 MPH.
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Originally Posted by sambandit
Oh, and to answer the original question, from lots of experience, going from 6000-7000 DA to 0 DA will be worth about 8-10 tenths and 10 MPH.
Given that fact. For my last 3250lb car and this one, I'm good at about
10hp ~= 1mph ~= 0.1 ET ~= 100lb. Going from 12.08 to 13.08 would therefore be an estimated loss of 100hp. We have all neglected to talk about something else very important, race wt w/driver. Given similar driver skill, a 150lb driver has an advantage of about 0.1 ET on a 250lb driver. Apparently my new drag radials (m/t st radials) are ~10lbs lighter than an F1!! They also help gearing as they are shorter. Can't wait to try them.

Its time we all met up on the W Coast somewhere for a winter run. Obviously not at the 7000ft track though.
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