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Old Jan 20, 2008 | 10:50 AM
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Unhooked positive battery ternimal on my 2001 to put on a battery tender pig tail, wouldn't fit side mount so I hooked back up. Noticed right headlamp up and no juice the car at all, no lights, or horn. Unhooked battery positive and connected cable, not even a spark? Is there a main fuse or breaker? Put tender on overnight and stiull nothing although it isn't realy a charger. Has anyone have the same problem?
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Old Jan 20, 2008 | 10:55 AM
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I had the same problem with my OEM AC Delco a few years ago.

Pulled into the garage after a ride. Went to the car 20 mins later and it was stone dead. Not a click - nothing - stone dead. Changed the battery and the car was fine again. The OEM battery never would charge up. That was after 8000 miles on the car.
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Old Jan 20, 2008 | 11:01 AM
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I bet you fooled around with that fuse box. Remove the lid and apply pressure directly to the top of the fuse box and make sure that it's fully seated. Hook your battery back up and see if it starts.
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Did have the fuse box cover off, pressed down and no change, can a battery just go dead or short out like that?
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Old Jan 20, 2008 | 11:32 AM
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DeeGee this battery was new in September of2007 but car has been sitting in a garage since late november, just started last weekend, weird as there is not even a spark when I pull the positive cable off and touch lead.
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Old Jan 20, 2008 | 12:16 PM
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Did have the fuse box cover off, pressed down and no change, can a battery just go dead or short out like that?
Just make sure that you pressed all the way around it to make sure that it is fully seated. I had the same experience you had and it was a combination of both a dead battery and the fuse box.
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Old Jan 20, 2008 | 12:19 PM
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DeeGee this battery was new in September of2007 but car has been sitting in a garage since late november, just started last weekend, weird as there is not even a spark when I pull the positive cable off and touch lead.
Put a multi meter across the terminals and check the voltage with the engine off. A 12-volt battery will show about 12.9 volts when it’s fully charged and about 11.4 volts when it is fully discharged.

If its an AC Delco I'd say a new battery will get you straight back on the road. If its the original battery best change it on spec

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Old Jan 20, 2008 | 12:52 PM
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This may not be the cause but I always disconnect the neg. post first. You might try disconnecting both posts, recharge the battery if necessary and then reconnect. When reconnecting, do the positive first and the neg. post the last. If it doesn't work, your not out anything. Good luck.
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[QUOTE=DeeGee;1563712783]Put a multi meter across the terminals and check the voltage with the engine off. A 12-volt battery will show about 12.9 volts when it’s fully charged and about 11.4 volts when it is fully discharged.

If its an AC Delco I'd say a new battery will get you straight back on the road. If its the original battery best change it on spec[/Q

Thanks, I'll give it a try. Do I need a special lead for a Battery Tender side post? The one I have dosn't look like it will fix against the battery and the way the bolt is made it cant go on the bolt side.
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You MUST make sure the battery terminals are properly tightened. They MUST be torqued to 11 ft/lbs to make the proper connection.

Try that.

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Thanks, I'll give it a try. Do I need a special lead for a Battery Tender side post? The one I have dosn't look like it will fix against the battery and the way the bolt is made it cant go on the bolt side.
I've got this same problem. Re did the terminals with a larger size, soldered them up, melted my sheathing and it wouldn't sit flat againts the battery side post.

Wondering what others have used to get a solid connection. The alligator clips ain't worth crap.
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An easy way is to get a cigarette lighter adapter and plug that in. Run the cord out through the window to the Battery Tender.
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Thanks to all that responded, since the battery was new in November I took it out and put it on a charger for a few hours. re-installed and it started right up. Dont want anymore problems so even if the battery is fairly new I will buy an Optima gell this week, this way I can conect the cables to the side post and connect the battery tender to the top, all I've heard about leaking batteries I think it will be money well spent. I'm glad I joined this forum as there is is a huge amount of information about the same brand of car and all have something in common, Thanks
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Thanks to all that responded, since the battery was new in November I took it out and put it on a charger for a few hours. re-installed and it started right up. Dont want anymore problems so even if the battery is fairly new I will buy an Optima gell this week, this way I can conect the cables to the side post and connect the battery tender to the top, all I've heard about leaking batteries I think it will be money well spent. I'm glad I joined this forum as there is is a huge amount of information about the same brand of car and all have something in common, Thanks
Good idea. After all the horror stories I've read about AC Delco batteries, you couldn't pay me to run one in my car. The price you'll pay for a Optima is a drop in the bucket compared to what you'll have to pay to get the damage fixed from a leaky AC Delco.
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Originally Posted by C5Bagger
Thanks to all that responded, since the battery was new in November I took it out and put it on a charger for a few hours. re-installed and it started right up. Dont want anymore problems so even if the battery is fairly new I will buy an Optima gell this week, this way I can conect the cables to the side post and connect the battery tender to the top, all I've heard about leaking batteries I think it will be money well spent. I'm glad I joined this forum as there is is a huge amount of information about the same brand of car and all have something in common, Thanks
The OPTIMA battery is not a GEL Battery! Its a spiral wound lead acid battery with recumbent gas technology so it wont leak even if mounted in odd positions.

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Originally Posted by C5Bagger
Thanks to all that responded, since the battery was new in November I took it out and put it on a charger for a few hours. re-installed and it started right up. Dont want anymore problems so even if the battery is fairly new I will buy an Optima gell this week, this way I can conect the cables to the side post and connect the battery tender to the top, all I've heard about leaking batteries I think it will be money well spent. I'm glad I joined this forum as there is is a huge amount of information about the same brand of car and all have something in common, Thanks
If you're running the battery down that quickly it may be worth the extra few $$ and invest in a battery tender for when the car sits unused for a while. This car has a drain even when idle. Optima Red Tops dont like being fully discharged but as you say, they don't leak.
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