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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 03:56 PM
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Hey guys,
I have a 2002 Z06 that is pretty nicely modded. I dyno'd 557 rwhp & 509 rwtq on a dynojet. My best time at the track was 11.13 @ 130.28
I was just curious to know in your opinion what my top speed would be utilizing 6th gear? I know when stock, in 6th gear you loose top speed due to the lack of HP. I'd be curious to know how fast this thing could go with the current power she has?
I would never try to do this.... This is why I'm asking your opinions. Just so I have an idea. I wouldn't be surprised if this car could go 200 or more considering the new 450 est. rwhp Z06 does 198. My personal guess is 205 mph. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 04:39 PM
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Hey guys,
I have a 2002 Z06 that is pretty nicely modded. I dyno'd 557 rwhp & 509 rwtq on a dynojet. My best time at the track was 11.13 @ 130.28
I was just curious to know in your opinion what my top speed would be utilizing 6th gear? I know when stock, in 6th gear you loose top speed due to the lack of HP. I'd be curious to know how fast this thing could go with the current power she has?
I would never try to do this.... This is why I'm asking your opinions. Just so I have an idea. I wouldn't be surprised if this car could go 200 or more considering the new 450 est. rwhp Z06 does 198. My personal guess is 205 mph. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated
Thanks in advance
I dont think theres many folks who could honestly tell you they know. Thats pretty rare air , but considering the output your car has it shouldnt have any trouble.
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 04:57 PM
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6ht gear isn't ment to handle any power so don't try it.
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Vetteoholic
Hey guys,
I have a 2002 Z06 that is pretty nicely modded. I dyno'd 557 rwhp & 509 rwtq on a dynojet.

I wouldn't be surprised if this car could go 200 or more considering the new 450 est. rwhp Z06 does 198. My personal guess is 205 mph. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated
Thanks in advance
Well, I have a nice "top speed calculator" and after running the numbers the theoretical top speed with 557 RWHP would be approx 232 MPH.

Now understand that this calculation is assuming the car was geared perfectly so that 557 RWHP was being put to the ground exactly when it maxed out at 232 MPH. It's very hard to gear like that unless you were just into top speed runs like the salt flat guys do.

The C6 Z06 with 450 RWHP could theoretically go about 217 MPH if it was geared perfectly to take full advantage of the RWHP. Every street car could go faster than it does if the gearing was matched perfectly with it's available RWHP for a top speed run.
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 05:09 PM
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Your 6th gear isnt a very strong gear anyway.... Used just for cruising. With that type of power, it would break probably. With an upgraded tranny, I dont see a problem breaking the 200mph mark....
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 08:55 PM
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Yeah, I know the car isn't designed to go 200+ I'm sure it probably could but I would be too scared the front end would lift off or something crazy like that. The new Z06 has zero lift unlike my Z06, the aerodynamic drag is similar @ 0.32cd with both but the C5Z does not have zero lift. As I said before, I would have to be insanely stupid to try it
I was just curious to know if anyone with similar power has tried it or know someone who has. I wish somehow my car could be tested with the proper equipment on an airforce base or something. I'd love to know Thanks for the replies
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I've seen some articles about this and as I recall aerodynamics become a very critical part of the top speed equation when you get into the 200 + MPH realm.

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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 10:05 PM
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I've seen some articles about this and as I recall aerodynamics become a very critical part of the top speed equation when you get into the 200 + MPH realm.
Just the aerodynamic drag is a huge part of the top speed equation, as the HP required to overcome it is proportional to the velocity cubed.
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 10:23 PM
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based upon stock z06 rear wheel demensions and gear ratios. the Z would eclipse the double century mark at 5000 RPMs. from what i have found from my googling, you need about 450 rwhp to crack that mark. so, from what I have found, you need to be making at least 450 hp at 5000 to acomplish this. do you have a dyno sheet?

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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by NVR KNO
Your 6th gear isnt a very strong gear anyway.... Used just for cruising. With that type of power, it would break probably. With an upgraded tranny, I dont see a problem breaking the 200mph mark....
And what exactly is it that brings you to the conclusion that "6th gear" would break? Are you saying that the material that the 6th gear is made out of is different than any other gear? and what is your evidence to support this claim?
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by VicCaerter
based upon stock z06 rear wheel demensions and gear ratios. the Z would eclipse the double century mark at 4400 RPMs. from what i have found from my googling, you need about 450 rwhp to crack that mark. so, from what I have found, you need to be making at least 450 hp at 4400 to acomplish this. do you have a dyno sheet?
An easier solution is to re-gear so the car just becomes air drag limited at the RPM that the engine makes it's peak HP.
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 12:14 AM
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Uphill or downhill??
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 12:21 AM
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And what exactly is it that brings you to the conclusion that "6th gear" would break? Are you saying that the material that the 6th gear is made out of is different than any other gear? and what is your evidence to support this claim?
The C6's 6th gear is an overdrive gear, .73 ratio if I'm not mistaken?

If you max out fifth gear, and then shift into sixth, you WILL damage the transmission. Sixth gear is NOT designed to handle those speeds with that kind of power.

There have seen several threads concerning this topic. Not trying to sound rude at all; this is just what some of the forum veterans have stated.

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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 01:17 AM
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An easier solution is to re-gear so the car just becomes air drag limited at the RPM that the engine makes it's peak HP.
you're right, but the OP asked if his car would crack 200, I was just trying to find out if it would with its current setup.
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by VicCaerter
you're right, but the OP asked if his car would crack 200, I was just trying to find out if it would with its current setup.
Got yeah ... yes, that's another way to look at it. Maybe he could drop in a hi-pro diesel engine that makes peak power down low.
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 11:16 AM
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Find the point at which your driving force balances with the drag force. You'll have to make a few assumptions about friction, etc, but almost all the variables are known.
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Damacon
The C6's 6th gear is an overdrive gear, .73 ratio if I'm not mistaken?

If you max out fifth gear, and then shift into sixth, you WILL damage the transmission. Sixth gear is NOT designed to handle those speeds with that kind of power.

There have seen several threads concerning this topic. Not trying to sound rude at all; this is just what some of the forum veterans have stated.

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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 01:00 PM
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IMO unless you had 4.56s or higher.. 6th is useless for top end. Most high end C5 runs are don in 5th.. The LPE 220+ mph run was done in 5th with a 2.73 rear end. so unless you want to put in 4.56s to pull 6th... you would need to drop from the 3.42 rear end to a 3.27 or 2.73.
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiteLightning_
IMO unless you had 4.56s or higher.. 6th is useless for top end. Most high end C5 runs are don in 5th.. The LPE 220+ mph run was done in 5th with a 2.73 rear end. so unless you want to put in 4.56s to pull 6th... you would need to drop from the 3.42 rear end to a 3.27 or 2.73.
That's an interesting point... I never knew the LPE Vette used a 2.73 gear for it's top speed runs. I just figured with how hard my car pulls in every gear I would be able to hit top speed in 6th. I mean at 60 mph in 6th gear this car still pulls very hard if I step on it. I couldn't believe it the first time I tried it. These procharger's love the high rpm's
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Above 60 mph aerodyamics (wide resistance) comes into play and as speed increases so does aerodynamic drag big time.

The Z06s (C5 & C6) are horsepower limited, meaning they don't have enough HP to push through the wall of air they are encountering at those speeds.

The faster you are going the harder and longer it takes to continue accelerating. There was a top speedshoot out in Road & Track several months back. If you can find a copy or the article on-line look at how quick they were by the 1 mile mark versus the 2 mile mark.

The Bugatti got to the 1 mile mark the fastest because of its superior traction capabilities, but the Henessey(?) prepped Viper was almost as quick at the 1 mile mark it accelerated much faster than the Bugatti between the 1 and 2 mile marks. However, both cars rate of acceleration were much slower than from zero to 1 mile.

Also, to the best of my knowledge the 6th gear meltdown is a myth. My brother asked this question and was told by RPM that it was not true. He would like to make a few high speed runs himself.
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