Thats why I asked if this "wait 10 second" thing had anything to do with not having a CLB?

 

At the top of the menu bar...look to the right side...you'll see a button marked "Search", it's between the "My Recent Topics" and "Quick Links" buttons. Click that and a little box will appear...insert whatever you need searched...ie: CLB, or Turn signals quit working...or whatever you want info on...a list will pop up...then start reading, some threads are longer than others, and you'll usually pick up pretty quick like if the people posting are being helpful or just asses...

~Maverick

 

Advanced search works well too... try different searches in different ways.

I forgot to mention that the post it note I said to look at the top of the page for is actually in the C5
Tech section. Good stuff in there.

 

Word... I have the CLB and I still get the pull key message... it happens when I don't unlock the doors with the remote before I try to start it up.

So if I'm in the garage working on the car, I get it a lot because I don't pull the keys out while I'm moving it in/out/around the garage.

CLB does not fix the pull key message.

Jay

 

CLB does not fix the pull key message.

 

Yea, only because I've screwed up enough stuff to know better!

Alrighty then old man, let me help you out with this search thing!

First of all, the template that the forum is using does not have the best search engine built into it. Thus, you may have to search a couple of different ways in order to find the data you're looking for. With that said, using these searching instructions will help you anywhere on the net, especially if the search engine you use works properly.

Search engines use the Boolean logic method for gathering and returning data. The operators "and" "or" and "not" are the filters that determine what data you get back after searching, and whether or not that data is relevant to your search. Those operators are normally represented by the mathematical symbols + (for and), - (for not) and a space for or. Instead of explaining it in detail, I'll just give you some examples.

1. Searching for a 2001 red Corvette will bring back every page with the words 2001, red, and Corvette. The reason why is that a space between each word is the same as typing the word "or". Thus, 2001 red Corvette is the same as 2001 or red or Corvette.

2. Searching for a 2001+red+Corvette will bring back every page with those 3 words on them. That's because it is the same as searching for 2001 and red and Corvette.

3. Searching for 2001+red -Corvette will bring back every page with the words 2001 and red, but NOT the word Corvette. The minus sign denotes that you do not want a page with that word on it. This comes in handy when your little girl searches for Barbie but you don't want all the **** and crap to come back with the results.

4. Searching for "2001 red Corvette" will bring back every page with that exact phrase. The quotations mean that you are searching for an exact phrase. Thus, the only pages that will be returned are the pages with that exact phrase on it.

Using the above will cause your search to return data that is more relevant to what you're actually looking for. Like I said before, the search engine built into the forum is a little flaky but it somewhat works correctly.

That's it for class today. You may now return to your regularly scheduled thread.

 

I'm wondering if either of your cars have had any of the dealer fixes done to them (fix a or b)? I'm thinking the guys who went straight to the CLB and didn't let the dealer do anything to their rides never get the pull key message. Could it be?

 

You may recall, in my post #17, I've had the latest recall done last fall. Car has been in hybernation since, went to start it up last week, got the :wait 10 second" message. My lock has been removed, thats not the issue, but the message is. I'm gonna try the cleaning key method next.

 

I'm thinking that this has something to do with the problem. Like I said before, the guys who went straight to the CLB are not having this issue. Only guys who have been through some stage of the dealer fix. I remember something about the dealer reprogramming the computer but I'm going to have to look through some more threads to find out the details.

 

Golly, see what I mean about the Junkman!!!

I learned a lot from your search tutorial.

Now, the "wait 10 seconds" issue. I am beginning to think that GM screwed you guys up more than fixed your C5. My car went through the column lock BS and I did the steering wheel jiggle and changed my battery and it was fine until I received my CLB. After installation, that is the last problem I have had. My 2000 never had the GM "fix". If your car is in hibernation, I would be tempted to send my BCM out to be reprogramed by one of the tuners on this site. I am not an expert, but I do recall that there was a tuner that will return your computer to default but erase the column lock process entirely. Some other members might have more info along this line.

 

Never got it until I installed the clb. Happen 3 times in a few months now.

 

Sheeesh,If I had hair I'd be pulling it out right now.Sounds like I'm kinda screwed.Since mine has had two of the recall "fixes",it sounds like I'll still get an occasional message.Oh well at least it's only on start up,and I've retired from my secret agent job so I don't have to worry about any fast getaways.I guess an occasional extra 10 seconds won't kill me. PS. BCM I know the cm is control module,what's the B stand for

 

I bet resetting your BCM back to the factory setting (after you install the CLB) would cure your problem. I'd be willing to wager on it!

 

B is for Body. This is the computer that controls a lot of those pesky devices that make our life easier in this car.

 

Yup, the dealer that had my car "repaired" the column lock before I picked it up. I ordered and installed the CLB shortly after, but I still get the "pull key" message.

I agree I would rather have the BCM the way it was the day it rolled off the line, but unless you can find me a dealer willing to do that, or get HP Tuners to work on the BCM, I think I'm screwed...

Lame... thanks GM....

 

OK, same thing just happened to me a few months ago. Here is what i did and it worked. When i stuck the key in with only my corvette key on the key chain it came up with the message. NOW, i stuck some more keys on my keychain creating more down pressure when the key (same key) is in the hole. I have not had the message at all now. Call it silly, but it worked for me, try it! Good luck!

 

That's silly!

It's probably a coincidence but hey, if it worked, somebody else will try it!

 

That says to me that yours is a VATS problem

The car needs to read the pellet on the key to disarm the security system. If wiggling it in the lock or changing the angle improves things looks like either the key is shot or the pellet needs a good clean. Or better still, use the other key.

 

I get that message all the time When I bought my 99 it's obvious the previous owner had the recalls done because my steering column won't lock. I don't know why I'm getting the message but it is annoying and I'm afraid sooner or later it's going to bite me in the a** but what other option do I have? I could take it to a local dealer but I'd just as soon stay away from them. Installing the CLB at this point would be pointless as it doesn't address the fuel cutoff issue and besides my locking plate was removed What to do Who knows?

 

I had the same thing today. I had the recall done last May on my 99 FRC (manual of course) and I go the wait for 10 seconds... THen gave me the service column lock. I could steer just fine but could not go more that 2 mph.

After a couple minutes all was good. I noticed one thing about today that might be a coincidence or it might have merit. I had my key in my pocket with my bluetooth headset (it was on) all day. Must have turned it on accidentally. There is a little battery in that headset.

Is it possible the battery in there goofed with the pellet in my key???

It has been starting fine since then.