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From: AKA Harvey Mushman-I know just enough to be dangerous "Those who sacrifice liberty for safety deserve neither"- B. Franklin
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I would think that the overhead -especially insurance- would keep the hourly rates higher than your low end scale. I generally feel that people without their own tools probably are not that good with someone elses. If you don't believe me go ask someone that works at a tool rental center. Friends and family are always welcome to use my pretty well equiped shop for free, but guess who usually does the wrenching?
I've seen cars fall of of lifts before ( a 78 pace car in fact).
I've seen people welding and torching items located inches away from fuel tanks and lines.
And I know of someone that was run over because they failed to comprehend when you take a screwdriver to jump the starter solenoid posts, the starter motor WILL turn the engine over, even if the car is in reverse gear and you're laying behind the front tire.
Not everyone is a "car guy", and not everyone has basic comprehension of the dangers involved in what a lot of us consider very basic and simple tasks. It's one thing to let your good friends use your equipment...it's quite another to sell that as a service to Joe Public.
Insuring an "DIY automotive repair hosting facility" would be outrageously expensive, if attainable at any cost.
Been there done that...........
WHat ends up happening is you get some Nascar wannabe who has a 74 monte carlo & wants to put a big block is it. After the 3rd day, He owes you more for lift/tool time than the cae is worth. So you end up haveing all these POS's sitting around the shop waiting for some one to pay. Now you have a signed contract stating that the owner is liable REGARDLESS of charge amount but you cant get blood from a turnup. He has filed bankrupsy & walked away from everything. Good Luck........
Oh just for the record, Your liability insurance for having uncertified mechanics working in your shop has cost you 22x the normal rate. Why do you think all the dealers only have "certified" mechanics?
Have my own in my back yard. 4 poster compressor sand blast cabinet,cherry picker and so on.DIY is alive and well.Being new to C5s is a major challenge though,especially compared to my big block shark.That one I've done springs shacks trailing arms Rebuilt the motor and swapped the trany and more.This electronic/computer controlled stuff is a real brain buster.Going to keep me scratching my head for a long time. Popular with family and friends as well !!
Last edited by itzza427; Mar 22, 2008 at 01:35 AM.
I have it all except the lift but I do have Race Ramps. I think that I'll do what I can in my garage, anything that I can't I'll take to my mechanic who also owns a couple of Corvettes.
Dont forget the military guys could use the Auto Shop on base. For the rest that would be a great idea but you'd need to cover the legal side carefully to CYA.
many years ago my father and a friend opened up a place EXACTLY like that in Conshohocken PA.
my fathers friend was a certified mechanic and would "supervise" the customers to make sure that they were doing things correctly and in a safe way.
aside from a few motorheads doing work on their cars, the majority of the people using the place were people doing there own tune ups, brake jobs and oil changes.
they offered classes on how to work on your car and sold tune up parts, brake parts, etc....
I thought it was a good idea, but today you can get sued for just looking at someone the wrong way.
I read about a kind of 'co-op' like this run by a group of motorcyclists. They rented the place, bought large commonly shared tools and decided who could and couldn't join the co-op. Everyone had their own hand tools because the first rule of mechanics is you don't lend your tools. During the course of the article one of the guys left the co-op because he couldn't keep up the payments. No hard feelings. They were looking for a replacement. It seemed to work for them because it was not a commercial enterprise. Since everyone owned a piece there was no incentive to sue yourself.
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