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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 09:24 PM
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With a cold air intake on a C5 how much does it affect you? I've noticed a very big difference from the common 15 degree temps in the winter in Kansas and the 100+ temps in the summer.

So how much of a difference does it make?
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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 09:33 PM
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From what i've read its 1% per every 7 degrees. On a stock engine thats over 45hp from 15 degrees to 100 degrees
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Originally Posted by Montezumas_Viper
From what i've read its 1% per every 7 degrees. On a stock engine thats over 45hp from 15 degrees to 100 degrees
it's 1.7 hp every 10 degrees F.


Sorry I made a mistake here...Im human too. its 1.5 % for every 10 degrees this is the % used to calculate corrected and uncorrected dyno numbers.,..For C5's

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Originally Posted by Evil-Twin
it's 1.7 hp every 10 degrees F.
More like 14.5 hp......
I like that, I know my boosted Vette loves the cold weather, just not the tires
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Good, I can deal with 14.5
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My car is an absolute beast in cold weather. Tires are a different story though
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So is might and its not FI. The same went for the LT1 camaro I had, it just seems like it has so much more power in the cold especially when going onto and onramp when you have traction.

Must be an illusion...
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My car is an absolute beast

Fixed it
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Originally Posted by Evil-Twin
it's 1.7 hp every 10 degrees F.
More like 14.5 hp......
Interesting, here is published research...

HP Output =
+1% HP per 10 degree temperature decrease

-1% HP per 10 degree temperature increase


One source here...(google is your friend)

http://www.banzairunnerpantera.com/t...techinfo_calcs

and a calculator so you do can do you own analysis

http://wahiduddin.net/calc/calc_hp_dp.htm

It's more about the density of the air and temp is only one factor of density.


But I guess when you feel it...nothing else matters

Don
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Of course it's going to be a percentage.

I assure you my 5hp snowblower on a 30 degree day does not make 10hp on a 0 degree day.

Since this is the C5 forum, it is safe to assume a 700hp blown C5 packing the cylinders with more of that oxygen-rich air will develop proportionally more hp gain in cold weather than the stock 345hp car will in the same conditions.

Volumetric efficiency is not a constant. Think about it....


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I can feel a huge difference in cool weather in comparison to our typical hot temps in Phx.
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Not to mention we probably get timing pulled also when the air is 115 in the freakin shade
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I only know that with my trubo charged '87 Grand National that two (2)degrees of temp drop ( out of the inter/outer cooler) add one (1) hp over ambient temps.
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Ever notice how some people ice down their motor between runs at the track,it works.
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Originally Posted by peter pan
I like that, I know my boosted Vette loves the cold weather, just not the tires
Peter you are correct. the engine loves cold air 50-55* but the pavement is too cold, and the tires are too cold so there is minimal grip.
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Simple terms:

40 degrees = 10.30's
90 degrees = 10.90's

That was on my car! lost about 4-5 mph
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Originally Posted by Evil-Twin
it's 1.7 hp every 10 degrees F.
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Originally Posted by Evil-Twin
Sorry I made a mistake here...Im human too. its 1.5 % for every 10 degrees this is the % used to calculate corrected and uncorrected dyno numbers.,..For C5's
Do you take in account the temperature sent by the IAT Sensor or is this 1.5% value an SAE outside temperature value?

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Originally Posted by miami993c297
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Do you take in account the temperature sent by the IAT Sensor or is this 1.5% value an SAE outside temperature value?

Christian
This amounts to over 35hp from the dead of winter to the hottest months in summer (Kansas).
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Another factor to consider is altitude. My snow blower came with a blurb that said it would lose a little over 2% of its horsepower for every 1,000 feet of elevation over sea level. Considering it's only 10 HP and we are at 7,000 feet it ain't got de horses it needs here in the deep snow so we modified the intake and exhaust. It did make a difference. It affects my vert also to the extent you can tell it.
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