NEW Interior LED Mod Thread
Gary




Are the resistors still reading the correct resistance values on the blown ones ? (See below)
470 Ohm are used for Blue, White, Green, Aqua & Pink LED's
560 Ohm are used for Red, Orange & Yellow LED's
Make sure and verify that the resistors are all the correct values for the specific colors above.
Here is a chart showing you what the resistor colors should be for 470 ohm, and 560 ohm.
http://www.bpesolutions.com/atechnical/ResistorQV.pdf
470 ohm = Yellow, Violet, Brown (4th bar is % tolerance)
560 ohm = Green, Blue, Brown (4th bar is % tolerance)
4th color bar is Tollerance (Gold = 5%, Silver 10%, No bar = 20%)
As you can see the resistors with the 4th bar as being GOLD is the best. It will better keep you in the voltage range you need.
Also.....
Next time this happens.... Check the resistance between the (-) and (+) of ALL the LED's on the board (before you replace any LED's). Make sure they ALL read an "open circuit". If you find one with any resistance then that may be your cause. Usually LED's blow due to a higher than recommended voltage/current. That why your (-) and (+) need to be isolated (Open circuit). If its not completely an open circuit then the LED's will blow.
Hope this helps...
Toque
Last edited by Toque; May 8, 2011 at 05:33 PM.
Are the resistors still reading the correct resistance values on the blown ones ? (See below)
470 Ohm are used for Blue, White, Green, Aqua & Pink LED's
560 Ohm are used for Red, Orange & Yellow LED's
Make sure and verify that the resistors are all the correct values for the specific colors above.
Here is a chart showing you what the resistor colors should be for 470 ohm, and 560 ohm.
http://www.bpesolutions.com/atechnical/ResistorQV.pdf
470 ohm = Yellow, Violet, Brown (4th bar is % tolerance)
560 ohm = Green, Blue, Brown (4th bar is % tolerance)
4th color bar is Tollerance (Gold = 5%, Silver 10%, No bar = 20%)
As you can see the resistors with the 4th bar as being GOLD is the best. It will better keep you in the voltage range you need.
Also.....
Next time this happens.... Check the resistance between the (-) and (+) of ALL the LED's on the board (before you replace any LED's). Make sure they ALL read an "open circuit". If you find one with any resistance then that may be your cause. Usually LED's blow due to a higher than recommended voltage/current. That why your (-) and (+) need to be isolated (Open circuit). If its not completely an open circuit then the LED's will blow.
Hope this helps...
Toque
Some notes I had;
First off the LEDs are in parallel (one line for the indicators, one for the lamps that were replaced) thus to check for shorts one only needs to check one set of each, not the whole run!
Second, I found that by placing the soldering iron on the back side you can rock the LED/Lamps and back them out by alternatly applying heat to each leg (these boards are very robust compared to the ones I worked on in the NAVY)
Third, a easy setup is to solder the resistor dirrectly to the positive leg, the solder the LED negitive leg in and then cut leads of resistor and positive lead of the LED and then solder them together and then slide your heat shrink over it. Most resistor can stand up this eliminates problems with the switchs laying correctly later.
Forth, I checked and double checked ohmage after install of leds, after adjustment of them and after I layed it back down in place for final fit, it pays off (I can keep a wooden nickle for that).
I had to minute discrepances, 1 the "driver" has a tint of pink color torards the left end (I am going to try to put a backing in to eliminate the blue led from mixing color with the red. 2 My center buttons "circ/recirc" has a bit more brightness on the left side and needs to be redirected a bit.
Fith, cleanleness is paramount! Any leads bent, any solder spillage (that board loves solder) and any metal from you cutting your leads can cause strange things to happen like burning out a Led, getting flickering, LED lit when car off, or worse. Use a bright light when you are done and do a good viaual of the boards.
Another note is that my unit lights up much brighter that the rest of the LEDs in the car at full brightness but by backing it down about 1/4 power they seem to look acceptable.
A good deal of work, but the end result as awsome! Pics to follow once I get the double din completed and installed (I did a check fit with the din unfinished and was very pleased)
Now here is a good question, what can I do with the remaining spare LEDs? Done the door switches, mirror, back interior lighrs, footwells, traction conyrol, fog/trunk release.
Changed out my carpet so I have 2 spare light holders and plan on installing them under the seats.
First, I bought a spare switch because taking one apart involves cutting it open along the glued seam. Having a spare always makes me feel better about ripping things apart.
After getting it apart, it's obvious why the lighting is so dim. The light has to go into the buttons from an angle and also has to make it through the half inch thick silicone rubber they're made out of.
I decided my best bet was to handle it just like the traction control button and embed the LED's into the rubber of the button. I used two Oznium wedge LED's that I removed from their bases.


A little extra wire soldered onto the leads, some heat shrink tubing to protect against shorting, and then solder the wires to the appropriate pad on the back of the circuit board (top is + if I remember right).

It's starting to come together...


It is offset and needs to fo through a white rubber piece so it loses all of it's light except a slight glow.
Thanks!
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Vertigo - Yep! And FYI two cycles of the key unlocks the Passenger door, three the trunk lid.
Tim
Thanks!
It really is simple once you get into it.
Last edited by wascapsfan; May 26, 2011 at 09:29 AM.
Has anybody played with the input dimmer wire (I believe it is the cream colored wire on the input plug) and put a in line resistor to reduce voltage and thus reduce the brightness to match the rest of the lights in the car?


Tim
I think I will tinker with putting a inline potentiometer in line and see what happens, if it doesnt' adjust the LEDs then I can just turn it fully open on the circuit and be back to square one.
I guess I could change out the rest of the other lights in the car with the same ones used in the HVAC. The door switches will be easy along with the fog/trunk module. I hate to take apart my speedo for the switches. I can see it now! Order on E Bay a used cluster with HUD (another upgrade) and change those LEDs prior to install. Boy it never ends does it?


If you shaved the tips of your LEDs down, place a dot right over the emitter with a black sharpie and it tones it down nicely...
I have placed a potentiometer on HVACs but I wired it to the harness between the power board and the displat board... Don't use a cheap one!
Maybe play with a material bearier on the buttons (red tape for the red lights?)
I will try the sharpie first, right now the lights on the hvac are just too bright.
http://autolumination.com/festoon.htm
When I popped them into my rear view mirror, they did not fit snug, so I went back to the stock bulbs. Looks like I ordered the wrong bulbs? Maybe I should have ordered a pair of the bulbs listed right below these? 212 festoons? A few of the festoons on that page appear to replace a stock 212 festoon.... Which one works best?? Ugggh....confused!
Last edited by stockpile; Jun 12, 2011 at 09:24 PM.
Oh I have a 2003 Z06 FYI











