3.99 a gallon






We have had more refineries shut down in the past decades , and no new ones going online . the ones that are open are at full capacity and the demand is stronger , Hence the high prices .
If the gov. will cut down on pollution red tape crap and allow more new refineries to go online , gas prices will fall !
We now have been programmed by the oil companies that $2 range is a bargain these days , and I remember when $2 / gallon was highway robbery !
But the current gov is not going to step in before a new president is elected . Last I checked the Bushes were in the oil business . What's the hurry .
hmmmmbut hey we are all getting stimulus checks , spend them on gas !






Last edited by killain; Apr 23, 2008 at 05:53 AM.

FYI, the USA and coalition forces are also paying increased prices for fuel while they're in the middle east. That's what has many USA lawmakers upset, that we're paying increased fuel prices along with other associated war costs, while the government of Iraq isn't giving the USA or coalition forces any "deal" on fuel or paying their fair share of the war.
It kind of negates the initial argument that the war was all about oil. There's nothing we can do about it, so no sense in wasting "energy" on griping...






It kind of negates the initial argument that the war was all about oil. There's nothing we can do about it, so no sense in wasting "energy" on griping...
Last edited by killain; Apr 23, 2008 at 05:54 AM. Reason: correction
These prices are getting out of hand, before ya know it they will play **** on the gas pump screen so when you are paying 5 bucks a gallon you arnt the only one getting F##ked!
I know this isn't a political forum, but irregardless of which party is in power, this nation's economy can't continue to take hits like the sub-prime mortgage fiasco, rising fuel prices, and an endless military operation in the middle east.
I know it's just my opinion, but if oil prices were going up JUST due to limited supply, then presumably oil company's would be paying more for their crude, which would tend to hold their profits down. But when these companies are making record profits quarter after quarter it suggests that their costs aren't rising as fast as their prices. Thus we are indeed paying more than we should be for fuel. Our government must act to curb these profits by limiting how much profit an oil company can earn per barrel of fuel. Sadly, I don't believe our government has the courage to do this.
If and when our trucking industry simply shuts down the semi's that haul our food to market, our fuel to the service stations, and our raw materials to our factories, then I believe we can expect our government to wake up and immediately blame the other party for all our nation's ills. But by then I wonder if the long-term damage will be too great to undo.
I apologize for my lengthy rant.
Glen
welcome to 1974 (if you are old enough to rmember) and BTW remember what happened to gas prices from 1975-1982
Several economic items worry me.
1. Gas prices, as we've been discussing here. I clearly remember the inflationary 1970s, triggered by the 1973 Arab Oil Embargo -- inflation 10 to 12% a year. Car loans at 15 - 20%. Was ugly.
2. Mortgage crisis. Just read an article that first-quarter 2008 foreclosures in California rose 327% when compared to 2007. An average of 500 PER DAY went into foreclosure during during the first quarter of this year.
3. I receive a monthly newsletter from TransUnion, a credit reporting agency. The last issue stated that the 'average American' (singular, not family) is carrying about $8,400 in credit card debt. This implies that a couple is carrying $16,800.
4. One third of all potential new car buyers owe more on their trade-in than what it's worth. Plus -- 60-, 72- and 84-month loans are becoming common (and I'm not just talking Vettes here).
I was thinking about trading for a C6 -- but not now: NO NEW DEBT FOR THIS SODBUSTER!
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More bad news. Was reading an MSN report that gas prices may rise from $117 per barrel to $180.00 per barrel in the next two years.
What I can't understand is this: In 2004 a quart of crap oil at a handy way 7-11 what ever costs $.99 That same crap oil is still around $1.25 if not cheaper. Oil is oil right. So if you can still get crap oil in discount stores for around a buck. How come gas is so high? Every one passes the buck, it's always some body else's fault. If crude oil is $117 per barrel then how come crap oil is not 3 or 4 bucks for a quart? I’m finished. And no, I’m not going to sell my car so the economic terrorists can fell good about screwing with our way of life. We have all the crude oil we need in the gulf off Florida, Alaska, and right here in the USA. We need to start using our resources. If I offended any tree huggers, oh well.
More bad news. Was reading an MSN report that gas prices may rise from $117 per barrel to $180.00 per barrel in the next two years.
What I can't understand is this: In 2004 a quart of crap oil at a handy way 7-11 what ever costs $.99 That same crap oil is still around $1.25 if not cheaper. Oil is oil right. So if you can still get crap oil in discount stores for around a buck. How come gas is so high? Every one passes the buck, it's always some body else's fault. If crude oil is $117 per barrel then how come crap oil is not 3 or 4 bucks for a quart? I’m finished. And no, I’m not going to sell my car so the economic terrorists can fell good about screwing with our way of life. We have all the crude oil we need in the gulf off Florida, Alaska, and right here in the USA. We need to start using our resources. If I offended any tree huggers, oh well.






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Last edited by Ikester; Apr 22, 2008 at 07:50 PM.
We have had more refineries shut down in the past decades , and no new ones going online . the ones that are open are at full capacity and the demand is stronger , Hence the high prices .
If the gov. will cut down on pollution red tape crap and allow more new refineries to go online , gas prices will fall !
We now have been programmed by the oil companies that $2 range is a bargain these days , and I remember when $2 / gallon was highway robbery !
But the current gov is not going to step in before a new president is elected . Last I checked the Bushes were in the oil business . What's the hurry .
hmmmmbut hey we are all getting stimulus checks , spend them on gas !

I must say you are very correct. I actually work at an oil refinery and can say we are in the middle of a multi billion dollar project to double the size of our largest refinery. Even with all of the expansion projects at our and other companies' refineries, the deman is too great for the system on a global scale.
If you want gas prices to go down, tell China to stop sucking up all of it. One of the largest reasons for the higher demand is because China has finally entered the 21st century and with that comes major consumption.
You can not fault the oil companies for the price of gas as they make VERY little per gallon. They make less per gallon than the government adds to the price via taxes.
Of course they will have multi billion dollar profits when we are selling every last drop that is produced unlike years before. There is no current oil shortage and probably will not be for years and years to come, however until we can find a way to increase refining of it, we will be stuck with continued price increases.
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