Allstate has put me in a bad position
#22
Safety Car
I had trouble on a claim with Allstate in Florida (the other party had Allstate and I had State Farm). After getting the run around from Allstate (even though the officer cited the other driver at the scene, Allstate found it necessary to do their own "investigation' from an office 100 miles away) I finally dropped that claim and filed against my insurance. Had to fight them on the value of the car and disagreed with it being totaled, I finally got them to 2.5 times the value they originally offered.
Had to pay my deductible and part of the rental car coverage but the way the insurance worked was that any amount they collected from Allstate would first be used to completely reimburse me. I had a check for all of my out-of-pocket expenses within a month.
I'd be willing to bet that your insurance company would consider it totaled too (they don't just look at the repair estimate but also take into consideration the potential additional damage once they get into the repair).
Good luck with all of it!
Had to pay my deductible and part of the rental car coverage but the way the insurance worked was that any amount they collected from Allstate would first be used to completely reimburse me. I had a check for all of my out-of-pocket expenses within a month.
I'd be willing to bet that your insurance company would consider it totaled too (they don't just look at the repair estimate but also take into consideration the potential additional damage once they get into the repair).
Good luck with all of it!
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Allstate has had a bad rep for this kind of crap as far back as I can remember and that is between 40 and 50 years!!! They have gotten away with this stuff for 50 years I don't think they are going to change any time soon!!! The pool of potential customers is unlimited in their eyes. Loose one,there's dozens to take their place,,,Just hire a slick spokesman and a slick promotions company to make more commercials!!
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You are getting the whole story alright. I have Geico and I could turn it into them. And IF... *IF* I had known this person was underinsured about 4 weeks ago I would have taken a different route on this whole claim. I had to press Allstate pretty hard to get it totaled. They wanted to repair the car. I do not want to turn it into my insurance because even though it shouldn't raise my rates, it will be noted on my account that there was an accident.
At this point I would rather let Allstate pay GMAC the whole 25k for the car, then I will keep the car and either sell it at an auction myself or part it out. I should be able to get over 10k for parts from a low mileage C5Z. The car is close to stock and only had 44k miles on it. If I did that it would get paid off also. I owe right at 35k so that
It just more pisses me off that Allstate has been jacking me around for almost 5 weeks now. They are supposed to verify insurance coverage before ever working a claim. So they should have known how much money they had to work with before even offering me 34.9k for my car.
#27
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There is where you went wrong. You should always inform your insurance company if you need insurance coverage, whether you are using your policy or another persons. You are always going to have the accident on your record whether or not you reported it to insurance.
I feel for you but you did try to skirt the system a bit, hopefully al it costs you is time.
You company likely would have paid you and recouped what they could from the other parties insurance.
Call your agent and talk to them about it, they know what to do much better than us.
I feel for you but you did try to skirt the system a bit, hopefully al it costs you is time.
You company likely would have paid you and recouped what they could from the other parties insurance.
Call your agent and talk to them about it, they know what to do much better than us.
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There is where you went wrong. You should always inform your insurance company if you need insurance coverage, whether you are using your policy or another persons. You are always going to have the accident on your record whether or not you reported it to insurance.
I feel for you but you did try to skirt the system a bit, hopefully al it costs you is time.
You company likely would have paid you and recouped what they could from the other parties insurance.
Call your agent and talk to them about it, they know what to do much better than us.
I feel for you but you did try to skirt the system a bit, hopefully al it costs you is time.
You company likely would have paid you and recouped what they could from the other parties insurance.
Call your agent and talk to them about it, they know what to do much better than us.
I don't see how I tried to skirt the system. I chose not to use my insurance since she supposedly had adequate coverage through allstate. If she had not had enough coverage and I had known that in the beginning I would have gladly called Geico and had this resolved much more quickly than it is not. But the truth is that Allstate doesn't care about me anymore than they care about their own insured party. I guess that's just part of being an insurance company though. You got to be willing to **** on your customers in order to keep the business running.
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I have a different story about Allstate. After being with them for 20 years I had a serious (large) claim on a rental property. They took over a month to assess the damage and then denied the claim. I lost the income for that period and had to fix the damage myself. So I cancelled the insurance with Allstate. I never received a call, not from the agent, not from the company, to find out why I was cancelling. Agents will tell you that staying with a company gives you some credits when something happens. Not in Allstate's case.
Sorry about your difficulties s ladd. Call the regulatory agencies and whoever else you can think of. And if the first quote was in writing sue Allstate in court.
Good luck.
Sorry about your difficulties s ladd. Call the regulatory agencies and whoever else you can think of. And if the first quote was in writing sue Allstate in court.
Good luck.
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Allstate has had a bad rep for this kind of crap as far back as I can remember and that is between 40 and 50 years!!! They have gotten away with this stuff for 50 years I don't think they are going to change any time soon!!! The pool of potential customers is unlimited in their eyes. Loose one,there's dozens to take their place,,,Just hire a slick spokesman and a slick promotions company to make more commercials!!
Unfortunately for us, his insurance company was Allstate. The brains at that company desided that we were partially at fault (keep in mind that we were sitting in a stationary vehicle) and that Allstate would cover only 80% of the damages.
After waiting one year for the case to go to arbitration, the judge told Allstate that they were 100% responsible. My Mercury insurance contact person could not believe that Allstate could possibly conclude that we were partially at fault!
In other news, I was just recently talking to a couple whose guest house was burned to the ground in Ramona, CA. They told me that while their insurance company settled the clain, quickly, they have talked to several Allstate-insured folks who went through heck to try to get money out of them.
Rule-of-thumb: Stay away from Allstate!
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There is where you went wrong. You should always inform your insurance company if you need insurance coverage, whether you are using your policy or another persons. You are always going to have the accident on your record whether or not you reported it to insurance.
I feel for you but you did try to skirt the system a bit, hopefully al it costs you is time.
You company likely would have paid you and recouped what they could from the other parties insurance.
Call your agent and talk to them about it, they know what to do much better than us.
I feel for you but you did try to skirt the system a bit, hopefully al it costs you is time.
You company likely would have paid you and recouped what they could from the other parties insurance.
Call your agent and talk to them about it, they know what to do much better than us.
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#33
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I have a different story about Allstate. After being with them for 20 years I had a serious (large) claim on a rental property. They took over a month to assess the damage and then denied the claim. I lost the income for that period and had to fix the damage myself. So I cancelled the insurance with Allstate. I never received a call, not from the agent, not from the company, to find out why I was cancelling. Agents will tell you that staying with a company gives you some credits when something happens. Not in Allstate's case.
Sorry about your difficulties s ladd. Call the regulatory agencies and whoever else you can think of. And if the first quote was in writing sue Allstate in court.
Good luck.
Sorry about your difficulties s ladd. Call the regulatory agencies and whoever else you can think of. And if the first quote was in writing sue Allstate in court.
Good luck.
heard to many stories lately, and none any positive..
#34
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This is one reason why i always take GAP insurance on all my vehicles that i purchase and have a loan for. You get hosed with the value and pay off every time.
What is Gap insurance?
Gap insurance will insure one for the difference between what one would owe on a vehicle and what an insurance company says it's worth. This insurance is a must for someone who is considering purchasing a new vehicle since a new vehicle depreciates right after it is driven off the dealer's lot.
Good luck and I hope everything goes in your favor
What is Gap insurance?
Gap insurance will insure one for the difference between what one would owe on a vehicle and what an insurance company says it's worth. This insurance is a must for someone who is considering purchasing a new vehicle since a new vehicle depreciates right after it is driven off the dealer's lot.
Good luck and I hope everything goes in your favor
#35
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Do a Google search on "Allstate doesn't pay" the results will scare you! Their all on your side when they're selling you the coverage but it's a different story when you turn in a claim! Good luck!
#38
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I learned about insurance companies from a townhouse I had in San Diego. Large complex. Pretty new, they found some serious building flaws.
The insurance company kept telling us not to worry, they would take care of us. What they did was draw out the process for several years. There was always one more little study they had to make, one more thing to check.
Meanwhile people couldn't sell and our beautiful complex started to turn into rental center for college kids.
We finally had to hire a nasty lawyer with experience in this litigation. He filed suit and two years later, the day the trial was supposed to start, they settled. Total of 6 years.
I learned insurance companies are only your friend when you are paying them. When you become a problem you are turned over to people who are experts at minimizing payout. It's all about the money.
The insurance company kept telling us not to worry, they would take care of us. What they did was draw out the process for several years. There was always one more little study they had to make, one more thing to check.
Meanwhile people couldn't sell and our beautiful complex started to turn into rental center for college kids.
We finally had to hire a nasty lawyer with experience in this litigation. He filed suit and two years later, the day the trial was supposed to start, they settled. Total of 6 years.
I learned insurance companies are only your friend when you are paying them. When you become a problem you are turned over to people who are experts at minimizing payout. It's all about the money.
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FYI: Allstae was giving me discounts and good driver credits so I was remiss in NOT checking their rates with other companies. They were not the cheapest. I am now with METLIFE and they are cheaper.
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im in nevada, so it might be different here. But, you have up to 3 years to file a claim. call your agent and roll the dice. allstate will repair a car at a higher percentage of value then most if not all. i work in a body shop and deal with these maggots every day. if allstate was going to total it, chances are better than even geico will too. besides, you have some leverage with them, you pay their bills. in nevada, the owner can demand a total, but you have to pay the difference of the repair cost and value of the car. if you do file a claim and its a total, geico will pay the claim and go after allstate. down side is you lose your deductible, which eventually you will get back. anyway, good luck. i see this kind of thing all the time. truly sucks. regards, j.d.