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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 06:59 PM
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lol..people normally do 80+ on I5....so unlucky
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by FASST LN
A speeding ticket, or any moving violation citation, does benefit the police indirectly by providing them additional job security.
And, here I thought, is was the violator that provided the additional job security.
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 09:04 PM
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lol..people normally do 80+ on I5....so unlucky
No joke...but in the sticks police are pretty bad...
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by FASST LN
A speeding ticket, or any moving violation citation, does benefit the police indirectly by providing them additional job security.

The bureaucrats aren't going to lay off a bunch of officers if the police are one of the major sources of revenue for the municipality.
Traffic citations provide security to police officers like purchasing an airplane ticket or buying a new car privides security to those in the airline and auto industry. They aren't laying off police officers because crime increases during difficult economic times. Bank robberies are on a record pace here in the Chicagoland area.

What bureaucrats are doing to generate revenue is to install cameras at major intersections within their municipalities for red light violations. They recently had an article in one of the Chicago newspapers about how many traffic citations were issued as a result of one camera at a major intersection near the Woodfield Mall. It was mind boggling. So many people received tickets and complained that they would no longer shop at the mall, that they removed the camera. Police officers writing tickets can't even come close to citations generated by a camera.
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 09:35 PM
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I see car's racing all the time on the freeways here at night. Fortunately for me, I got to witness yet another fool for blasting down the freeway in excess of 100, thinking he was racing some other fellow scumbag. Unfortunately for him, it was the CHP who was gaining on him real fast, then flipped on the lights. Cool!
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by dmoore
Law enforcement officers don't benefit from the citations they issue!
They recently busted a trooper around here who benefited. Not only did he ask for license, registration, and proof of insurance he demanded the violator to give him their wallets. When he returned everything all their cash was gone.
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by dmoore
Law enforcement officers don't benefit from the citations they issue!
I have an officer in the family. If they write over the usual amount they do (Always being careful not to say quota) they get paid days off. That is a great benefit to the officer I would say!
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ValiantSailor
I live in Washington and 18 miles over the speed limit aint no 67 buck ticket. Its a biggie. Probably 200 or more.

If you do the crime, you have to do the time.
Check out the link in my previous post it states all the penalties.

I think I am going to apply for a mitigation hearing, state my case and hope for the best, which apparently all be done by mail without having to go the the court
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Originally Posted by minitech
I have an officer in the family. If they write over the usual amount they do (Always being careful not to say quota) they get paid days off. That is a great benefit to the officer I would say!
Name the department since that is illegal! Every state has a law preventing an officer from benefiting from issuing citations. If that is the case I could contact you local FBI office and report it. Also I would produce some proof before making such accusations!
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Camjamsdad
They recently busted a trooper around here who benefited. Not only did he ask for license, registration, and proof of insurance he demanded the violator to give him their wallets. When he returned everything all their cash was gone.
Well thats good he got caught and dealt with!! We don't need officers like that at all!
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by dmoore
Law enforcement officers don't benefit from the citations they issue!
I dunno Doug...Some of our traffic guys knock down some pretty hefty court overtime.....Our heaviest hitter lives damn well, has put both his kids thru college, and his wife doesnt work
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by The NNIAL8R
I dunno Doug...Some of our traffic guys knock down some pretty hefty court overtime.....Our heaviest hitter lives damn well, has put both his kids thru college, and his wife doesnt work
I will agree with you on that! My point is that officers don't get directly paid for the amount of the citations they issue and as one person posted the fine amount don't go directly into officers retirement funds. I too certainly make a lot of overtime every year from being in court, our current contract pays us a minimum of 2 hours of overtime everytime we appear in court.
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Just as I believed. Officers may not get our check directly, but they DO benefit from citing folks.

DANGER!!!
As budgets get tighter and police payrolls get pinched, it makes me concerned on the motivation to push up the ticket count to fill the money void. There will be a real temptation to turn this into even more of a fund raiser!
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by dmoore
I will agree with you on that! My point is that officers don't get directly paid for the amount of the citations they issue and as one person posted the fine amount don't go directly into officers retirement funds. I too certainly make a lot of overtime every year from being in court, our current contract pays us a minimum of 2 hours of overtime everytime we appear in court.
Dayum...2 hours per apearance???...That's damn good, considering most court (in my case anyway) seems to be on my time off.....I work swing shift (by choice), so all of my court is OT...but the older I get, the more I prefer comp time to OT.....
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by sogysailor
Just as I believed. Officers may not get our check directly, but they DO benefit from citing folks.

DANGER!!!
As budgets get tighter and police payrolls get pinched, it makes me concerned on the motivation to push up the ticket count to fill the money void. There will be a real temptation to turn this into even more of a fund raiser!
Already seeing proof of that in Colorado...The Colorado State Patrol recently DOUBLED all their traffic violation fines......
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by sogysailor
Just as I believed. Officers may not get our check directly, but they DO benefit from citing folks.

DANGER!!!
As budgets get tighter and police payrolls get pinched, it makes me concerned on the motivation to push up the ticket count to fill the money void. There will be a real temptation to turn this into even more of a fund raiser!
I can see where that would be easy to believe. I can't speak for other states but Wisconsin is very restricted on what administrators of police and sheriff's departments can say and do about the amount of citations officers issue. Wisconsin law enforcement officers have very strong unions and its almost unheard of for any Chief or Sheriff to encourage officers to issue citations, plus Wisconsin has a law against quotas.

I believe the legislators set the price of tickets in Wisconsin knock on wood the only one that went up this year was OWI and that was only a few dollars. Tickets in Wisconsin are too high as it is! Minimum speeding ticket is $160.80!

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Originally Posted by Camjamsdad
They recently busted a trooper around here who benefited. Not only did he ask for license, registration, and proof of insurance he demanded the violator to give him their wallets. When he returned everything all their cash was gone.
Yes, there are bad police officers, just like there are bad people in all other professions as well. In my opininion, a police officer who is involved in any type of activity like that should be fired. I spent many, many years in law enforcement and never saw anything like that. If I had, I would have reported it.

I'll never forget a doctor that I stopped years ago for speeding on the midnight shift. When he handed me his driver's license, there was a $20 bill attached to it and he asked me if we could "work" it out. I took everything and went back to my aquad car and ran his information. When I returned to his car with a ticket and the $20 bill, I told him he had insulted me and my profession. He back-peddled very quickly, but I never forgot that stop.

My Dad got stopped years ago in Chicago while driving a truck and the cop told him that he had a choice of getting a ticket or he could buy the cop breakfast. My Dad took the ticket. I remember him coming home and telling us that if had given the cop money, he would have been just as bad as the cop. My Dad is a very wise man.

I think Frank Serpico said it best. There is no such thing as a crooked cop. You're either a crook or you're a cop.

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Originally Posted by dmoore
Law enforcement officers don't benefit from the citations they issue!


Hahahah, OK, whatever you say. I agree, they don't get a personal commission check for each citation. But that money goes into "the system" - and they get paid from "the system". Thus they benefit.

It's like Wall Street bankers - trying to tell us that our taxpayer bailout money was not used to pay bonuses. Somehow they paid bonus money from a "separate" account, lol.

Those kinds of semantics don't work IMO.

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Hahahah, OK, whatever you say. I agree, they don't get a personal commission check for each citation. But that money goes into "the system" - and they get paid from "the system". Thus they benefit.
. . . and as a taxpayer you benefit as well because a portion of that money goes back to your community for things such as street/road maintenance, park improvement/development, schools, and a variety of other things. I have a friend who works for a large food (well known) corporation as an accountant and he got a huge bonus just a few weeks ago. Admittedly, I buy some of their products, so I guess in a way he's benefited from me because I've contributed to their "system".
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. . . and as a taxpayer you benefit as well because a portion of that money goes back to your community for things such as street/road maintenance, park improvement/development, schools, and a variety of other things. ....

I wish it was like you say. I live in Rhode Island, one of the worst managed states in the USA. Our budget deficit is incredible. Our unemployment rate (10.3%) leads the nation. We have roads that resemble the surface of the moon. Rhode Islanders don't benefit from any citation money, that's for sure.....................

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