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Old Apr 3, 2009 | 12:35 PM
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To the guys that don't put brake fluid in their Motive tank. Could you tell me why you don't? What advantage is there to not putting fluid in the tank, you have to keep taking the cap off refilling the MC and pumping it back up again.

You many not use the full amount in the pressure bleeder, so that goes to waste.

the main reason is spiller or leaks. Brake fluid is costic and will eat paint.

So it is just easier to fill the MC, put on the Bleeder cap and pressure.

Now I also made my own cap with a three way valve, to release pressure on the MC and bleeder bottle , before I remove the the bleeder cap from the MC.

Real die hards use pressurize N2 instead of pressurized air too keep moisture out of the bake fluid as long as possible
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Old Apr 3, 2009 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by AU N EGL
You many not use the full amount in the pressure bleeder, so that goes to waste.

the main reason is spiller or leaks. Brake fluid is costic and will eat paint.
What I have left in the tank I just pour back in the bottle it's never been contaminated with fluid from the system. I've been using this bleeder for years and never had a leak or spilled any fluid. To bleed pressure I just crack open the cap on the Motive tank, but you only need to do this once, when you're done since you don't have to keep refilling the master cylinder. I guess it just another way to use it, but I think I'll stick to the method I've been using I've never had a problem.
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Old Apr 3, 2009 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ljthe2nd
To the guys that don't put brake fluid in their Motive tank. Could you tell me why you don't? What advantage is there to not putting fluid in the tank, you have to keep taking the cap off refilling the MC and pumping it back up again.

I just put fluid in the Motive tank, and pump it up, this is the way Motive designed it to work, I can do all 4 wheels without having to refill the tank. I've never had any leaks or problems so what is the reasoning behind the only air in the Motive tank method?
Easy -- no brake fluid to drip out of the cap/hose onto the engine/fender/etc. when removing the cap, no post-use bottle clean-up needed, no wasting large volumes of brake fluid (the volume of fluid which must be maintained in the bottle to ensure the pickup remains covered (I'm not putting the exposed, but unused fluid back in its can for reuse), and far less exposure of the fluid to moisture from the air (large surface area in the bottle exposed to a large volume of potentially humid air).

To each their own, but for me having to remove the cap a couple times to refill the master cylinder reservoir is much less bother than the clean-up and waste issues.
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Old Apr 3, 2009 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ljthe2nd
To the guys that don't put brake fluid in their Motive tank. Could you tell me why you don't? What advantage is there to not putting fluid in the tank, you have to keep taking the cap off refilling the MC and pumping it back up again.

I just put fluid in the Motive tank, and pump it up, this is the way Motive designed it to work, I can do all 4 wheels without having to refill the tank. I've never had any leaks or problems so what is the reasoning behind the only air in the Motive tank method?
My exact question also. Came home for lunch to ask the same question. Glad someone else is wondering what the possible advantage is to making it more difficult than it has to be IMHO.
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Old Apr 3, 2009 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by mneblett
Easy -- no brake fluid to drip out of the cap/hose onto the engine/fender/etc. when removing the cap, no post-use bottle clean-up needed, no wasting large volumes of brake fluid (the volume of fluid which must be maintained in the bottle to ensure the pickup remains covered (I'm not putting the exposed, but unused fluid back in its can for reuse), and far less exposure of the fluid to moisture from the air (large surface area in the bottle exposed to a large volume of potentially humid air).

To each their own, but for me having to remove the cap a couple times to refill the master cylinder reservoir is much less bother than the clean-up and waste issues.
As you said to each his own. I'm going to follow the directions on how to use the bleeder. I have plenty of fender covers. Plus its so darn dry here in colo most of the time so Not too worried about excess moisture. Thanks to everyone for all the responses. I'm now comfortable with the process!! Thanks.
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 02:38 PM
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Hi nascar57:
I have no knowledge of using the mighty vac power bleeding system. I only copied & pasted it from another c/f member to inform you that you could use the dot 4 because the only difference is the higher boiling point. I do it the old fashioned way manually.rr,lr,rf,lf
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 04:32 PM
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That sequence is what I was accustomed to however the sequence from the factory manual goes like this. RR,LF,LR,RF. Not sure why but thats what the manual says. Thanks!
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 04:43 PM
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I do LR, RR then RF and LF.

Never had a problem
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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 03:57 PM
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Hi There nascar57:
I stand corrected sir. Sorry for the bad info.You sir are correct the 2001 s/manual on page 5-52 states rr,lf,lr,rf.How did you make out with the power bleeding method?
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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by robsc501
Hi There nascar57:
I stand corrected sir. Sorry for the bad info.You sir are correct the 2001 s/manual on page 5-52 states rr,lf,lr,rf.How did you make out with the power bleeding method?
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NO problem. It probably works both ways but I prefer to do it as the manual says. The job went well and I now have pretty blue brake fluid throughout!
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