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Old Jul 11, 2009 | 08:18 PM
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I would have taken a nice drive from Daytona Beach to Titusville and resolved it their store it would have taken you less time than you spent on the phone. Besides you would have had the pleasure of driving your car.
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Originally Posted by KoolBlu262
After I read the remarks about the various suppliers, I was surprised. I have had acceptable, if not perfect, service from those mentioned. Recently, the best experience I had was with Southern Car Parts in Georgia. Jim Gore, I think is his name, was prompt in delivery and did exactly what he said. I ordered an exhaust system and intake. I can recommend him, at least from my limited experience.
had an "experience" with them too. Ordered 2 sets of stainless side fender grills. Received only one set but was charged for BOTH on my credit card. (The other set was suppose to be a gift). After several calls over a period of about 2 months, they finally sent the second set. My friend was installing them on his C5 and we noticed the right side grill didn't fit right. WHY? Because they were both LEFT SIDES!!

I think the more things you order, the more apt you are to having a bad experience somewhere along the line. I have to say, that overall I'm a little disappointed in the quality of some of the parts that I have received for the prices I'm paying. I've had everything from scratches and dents in stainless parts, to a shotty finish on chromed wheels, and poor (illegible) embroidery on floor mats. I send most parts back but it's aggravating to spend time re-packaging and shipping parts back that aren't of decent quality. Some parts I have actually kept and used anyway because I don't feel like making phone calls and shipping things back. I guess that's what some of these vendors hope for.
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ONE BMF
Ecklers=florida=land of idiots,immigrants , & geriatrics
yeah that added alot of value to this thread...
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by KoolBlu262
After I read the remarks about the various suppliers, I was surprised. I have had acceptable, if not perfect, service from those mentioned. Recently, the best experience I had was with Southern Car Parts in Georgia. Jim Gore, I think is his name, was prompt in delivery and did exactly what he said. I ordered an exhaust system and intake. I can recommend him, at least from my limited experience.
Jim Vose, actually. Yes, good vendor. Have purchased a couple of items from SCP, never a problem.
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 06:42 PM
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whats everyone experience with corvette central? I might place an order soon if they are any good.
I've ordered a part from them only to find the item was out of stock. Their website doesn't say if the item you're ordering in in stock. So we exchange emails for over 2 years, asking if the said item was in stock. They tell me they are having problems with their vendor. The vendor can't keep up with the demand. blah blah blah... So I find out that the item was discontinued from another site!! Ecklers I try not to buy from them either, they are rude!! I like Mid America, West Coast Corvette, Corvette Guys and Corvette Garage.
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by blacksedan87
Sorry for your miserable experience - too many times dealing with a large vendor like Mid America or Ecklers will leave a rotten taste in your mouth. One or two - or even a dozen malcontent, underpaid employees will ruin a business.

Let me tell you a recent experience I had as a vendor. I had a customer order a shirt and three hats. One hat I had in stock, the other two and the shirt had to be ordered. I sent an email advising the customer of the situation - and I did not charge his credit card for anything, leaving his order in a pending state. One week went by and I told him that I still did not have his shirt or hats (I had ordered them from my supplier).

The following week when he still did not have his order, he sent me a rather nasty email demanding that he have his merchandise or else. He gave me one more week - and told me that stuff like this doesn't happen when he orders from Mid America, and that had he known that I did not have his entire order in stock he would not have ordered in the first place. Now mind you that I have never charged his credit card - as I believe you shouldn't be charged until I have the merchandise available. He told me that he shouldn't have to wait for his order.

Bottom line - he shouldn't. In a perfect world the vendors like me should have everything in every available combination in stock. The reality today however is that no vendor can afford to tie up his funds on merchandise that may or may not sell. We all depend on the suppliers to provide product on a J.I.T. (just in time) basis. When that doesn't happen like it did for me, and apparently for Ecklers, the vendor needs to keep the lines of communication open to the customer, and keep them in the loop as to status.

What I chose to do in my situation is to tell him how sorry I was, but since I couldn't guarantee he would get his stuff before his imposed deadline - I cancelled the order and let him know that I did.

These financial times have changed a lot of businesses. They can no longer afford to do business the way it used to be done. None of this however is an excuse for rude customer service clerks, or poor communication. In fact - accurate and timely communication is the key. I have found that customers will tolerate disappointment if you communicate with them, but if you don't you have no right to their business. I believe as a vendor that we have to earn your business, and that is best done by:

1. Undercommit
2. Over deliver
3. Accurate and timely communication
4. Fair prices

But some times you're the bug and other times, you're the windshield. Sorry for the long disertation, but I thought it might be beneficial to see both sides of the issue. Again - sorry for your disappointment.
As stated above, often things are not what they seem all the time. I've bought from Ecklers many times without any problems, but I haven't done any business with them lately, last bought item in January 2009, but I'm sure your story is valid and as is apparent, many others have had the same experience. But let me remind you we enjoy this forum BECAUSE of companies like Ecklers. And everytime we have one of these multi-page rant threads, we start down the road which leads to the end of forums like this one. I'm not saying your wrong or unjust or that Ecklers or any vendors should get a pass on bad service, In these hard economic times, a lot of shops and vendors are falling by the wayside, often taking some unknowing customers property with them. But keep in mind what happens days and months after your complaint was posted.
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by blacksedan87
Sorry for your miserable experience - too many times dealing with a large vendor like Mid America or Ecklers will leave a rotten taste in your mouth. One or two - or even a dozen malcontent, underpaid employees will ruin a business.

Let me tell you a recent experience I had as a vendor. I had a customer order a shirt and three hats. One hat I had in stock, the other two and the shirt had to be ordered. I sent an email advising the customer of the situation - and I did not charge his credit card for anything, leaving his order in a pending state. One week went by and I told him that I still did not have his shirt or hats (I had ordered them from my supplier).

The following week when he still did not have his order, he sent me a rather nasty email demanding that he have his merchandise or else. He gave me one more week - and told me that stuff like this doesn't happen when he orders from Mid America, and that had he known that I did not have his entire order in stock he would not have ordered in the first place. Now mind you that I have never charged his credit card - as I believe you shouldn't be charged until I have the merchandise available. He told me that he shouldn't have to wait for his order.

Bottom line - he shouldn't. In a perfect world the vendors like me should have everything in every available combination in stock. The reality today however is that no vendor can afford to tie up his funds on merchandise that may or may not sell. We all depend on the suppliers to provide product on a J.I.T. (just in time) basis. When that doesn't happen like it did for me, and apparently for Ecklers, the vendor needs to keep the lines of communication open to the customer, and keep them in the loop as to status.

What I chose to do in my situation is to tell him how sorry I was, but since I couldn't guarantee he would get his stuff before his imposed deadline - I cancelled the order and let him know that I did.

These financial times have changed a lot of businesses. They can no longer afford to do business the way it used to be done. None of this however is an excuse for rude customer service clerks, or poor communication. In fact - accurate and timely communication is the key. I have found that customers will tolerate disappointment if you communicate with them, but if you don't you have no right to their business. I believe as a vendor that we have to earn your business, and that is best done by:

1. Undercommit
2. Over deliver
3. Accurate and timely communication
4. Fair prices

But some times you're the bug and other times, you're the windshield. Sorry for the long disertation, but I thought it might be beneficial to see both sides of the issue. Again - sorry for your disappointment.
I would buy from you based on your ability to communicate with the buyer. It's actually rare, but appreciated (by most).

Keep up the good work
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 07:09 PM
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Killian,

you make a valid point. However:

The fact that eckler's supports this forum is a moot point.

They are a fly by night, schlock outfit that screws people at EVERY opportunity. I'm sorry you don't see that.
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Originally Posted by TheBriton
Killian,

you make a valid point. However:

The fact that eckler's supports this forum is a moot point.

They are a fly by night, schlock outfit that screws people at EVERY opportunity. I'm sorry you don't see that.
It's not that I do or do not see a point about Ecklers. I'm just saying if we're looking for the guys who do right by us or not, we not serving our best interest to keep operating with such a waterfall of negitive tones. And when a thread like this happens, and then one is started in a few weeks and then another one is revived from archives, the cumulative effect is that at some point a\ or the vendor decides his marketing dollars are best spent someplace else. So when Internet Brands no longer see any profit from Corvetteforum.com, it closes it down and we are all left to sit in our self created mud puddle and say, "See I was right, but of course, I no longer do I have anyplace to echo my victory rant !" If I'm wrong I hope we still have supporters in the future to run our web based soapbox.
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Well I got the rest of my refund today. I ended up losing 42 cents in the long run because they didn't refund the tax on the shipping cost for some reason.

Killain, I actually strongly disagree with your point that there should be no negative threads on the forum. When this many people say that they have had bad experiences with a company, it helps prevent other members from having the same bad experiences. And that is what the forum is about, sharing knowledge with fellow vette owners and prospective buyers.
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Originally Posted by Turbopower87
Well I got the rest of my refund today. I ended up losing 42 cents in the long run because they didn't refund the tax on the shipping cost for some reason.

Killain, I actually strongly disagree with your point that there should be no negative threads on the forum. When this many people say that they have had bad experiences with a company, it helps prevent other members from having the same bad experiences. And that is what the forum is about, sharing knowledge with fellow vette owners and prospective buyers.
No, Look I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just saying once a post against a supporting vendor is posted, and a lot of folks have chimed in, then it becomes more of a negative effect as to the same supporting vendor renewing his support of this forum, if this goes on then we lose more and more Supporters, and to IB that's what makes powering this forum up and running. If left unchecked, we soon will be no longer a open/free membership and into a Pay for Membership forum site. It has and is spouting up all across the web as we speak. But I DO NOT support shoddy service by any vendor, supporting or not !

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I've heard other stories from those who have had the "Ecklers Experience". My main gripe though is the really crappy quality of the products - cheaply made and overpriced. A number of items from Mid America were this way.
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by NEVERL8C5
I would have taken a nice drive from Daytona Beach to Titusville and resolved it their store it would have taken you less time than you spent on the phone. Besides you would have had the pleasure of driving your car.
Im only a 30 minute drive from Ecklers so IF I ever buy anything from them then I drive over there to make sure they actually have it. Their website always shows that they have it in stock when they usually dont. Their prices are usually higher than everywhere else, not to mention shipping with them is outrageous just getting it to me for how far away they are from me and there is no telling when it will show up. I try to avoid buying from Ecklers at all costs though.
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Originally Posted by blacksedan87
Sorry for your miserable experience - too many times dealing with a large vendor like Mid America or Ecklers will leave a rotten taste in your mouth. One or two - or even a dozen malcontent, underpaid employees will ruin a business.

Let me tell you a recent experience I had as a vendor. I had a customer order a shirt and three hats. One hat I had in stock, the other two and the shirt had to be ordered. I sent an email advising the customer of the situation - and I did not charge his credit card for anything, leaving his order in a pending state. One week went by and I told him that I still did not have his shirt or hats (I had ordered them from my supplier).

The following week when he still did not have his order, he sent me a rather nasty email demanding that he have his merchandise or else. He gave me one more week - and told me that stuff like this doesn't happen when he orders from Mid America, and that had he known that I did not have his entire order in stock he would not have ordered in the first place. Now mind you that I have never charged his credit card - as I believe you shouldn't be charged until I have the merchandise available. He told me that he shouldn't have to wait for his order.

Bottom line - he shouldn't. In a perfect world the vendors like me should have everything in every available combination in stock. The reality today however is that no vendor can afford to tie up his funds on merchandise that may or may not sell. We all depend on the suppliers to provide product on a J.I.T. (just in time) basis. When that doesn't happen like it did for me, and apparently for Ecklers, the vendor needs to keep the lines of communication open to the customer, and keep them in the loop as to status.

What I chose to do in my situation is to tell him how sorry I was, but since I couldn't guarantee he would get his stuff before his imposed deadline - I cancelled the order and let him know that I did.

These financial times have changed a lot of businesses. They can no longer afford to do business the way it used to be done. None of this however is an excuse for rude customer service clerks, or poor communication. In fact - accurate and timely communication is the key. I have found that customers will tolerate disappointment if you communicate with them, but if you don't you have no right to their business. I believe as a vendor that we have to earn your business, and that is best done by:

1. Undercommit
2. Over deliver
3. Accurate and timely communication
4. Fair prices

But some times you're the bug and other times, you're the windshield. Sorry for the long disertation, but I thought it might be beneficial to see both sides of the issue. Again - sorry for your disappointment.


Nothing is worse than seeing some "embellishments" being posted on an open forum that I know that are being less than truthful, while some however may very well be.

Meeting ALL customers expectations, ALL of the time, will always be a challenge for mail order vendors. There are some things that they just can't control. When a manufacture is having a difficult time getting an item to it's vendor when promised.....it is what it is.
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 10:39 AM
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Please excuse my rant and my rather long story but I have heard of many others that have had problems with Ecklers so I want everyone to be warned before doing business with them. Skip to the end if you don't have the time to read it all.

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So I ordered an outdoor car cover on 4/18/09 from them since I would be living wihtout a garage May-Aug. A month went by and still no package so I called them to see what had happened and to cancel my order if it hadn't shipped yet. Their answer was that it had been out of stock (even though it said in stock when I bought it) and it had shipped out earlier that day (which I don't believe). I tell them that I no longer want it now since it has been so long and I only needed it for a certain period of time. The lady tells me to refuse the package when it comes and they will refund me when they get it back.

SO over the next month I send a few emails trying to cancel my order or atleast get an update and none of my emails are even answered. I call many times but never even get to talk to anyone.

My single worst experience was the day I called and waited on hold for an HOUR AND FIFTEEN MINUTES without even getting to talk to anyone and then I hung up and dialed back and waited another THRITY MINUTES before giving up again.

So finally, on JUNE 20 the package shows up while I am at work. I call them back the first business day after that at their corporate offices number that is listed on the sheet in the box and I actually get a kind person who tells me "sorry it was our fault" and tells me to mail it back to them and include the receipt for me shipping it back and they will refund everything. At this point I am still extremely upset that I have over 4 hours of phone calls with them and 3 unanswered emails but atleast I will finally get my money back 2 and a half months later.

Fastforward to yesterday when I get the refund back on my credit card... it is for $16.36 less than it should be and I am all sorts of pissed off all over again.

So today I call them and although the woman was rude just like the others I had talked to, I am getting $15.xx back from them and when I mention that it should have been free after all of this she says "whatever" and hangs up on me.

So to recap, I ordered a car cover... it came over 2 months later... i sent it back... I am hopefully getting almost all of my money back after over 4 hours on the phone with them, 3 unanswered emails, and countless rude people on the other end of the line. All in all, I will NEVER do business with them again and I will make sure that I do my best to keep others from making the same mistake that I did. All of the time I have lost (not to mention how many days they ruined my day with horrible customer service) from this is certainly worth more than the price of the car cover and if it were my business I would have comped it or atleast given them some credit back for the countless mistakes and rude employees.

First if you use a credit card for the order and canceling is a problem just call the card and have it put into resolution. They will reverse the charge and force the vendors hand. Second the method of ops that you encountered is normal for a company with no credit line to purchase inventory or uses your order monies to purchase prior sales orders. This is a sure sign of a cash straped ops and a dangerous ops that could fail with your money in hand.
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Second the method of ops that you encountered is normal for a company with no credit line to purchase inventory or uses your order monies to purchase prior sales orders. This is a sure sign of a cash straped ops and a dangerous ops that could fail with your money in hand.
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This has been a very informative thread. I am sorry for the guys who have had bad experiences with them, it is a shame indeed.
I myself have never purchased from Ecklers, and given the prices I have seen from them probably never will, they always seem so much more expensive than others. That coupled with the many negative experiences listed has led me to look at other options, and there are so many. The vendors I have used, most are supporting this forum have been great. When you are on a good thing stick to it!
Again I too would be "wild" if I was treated like some of you guys have, disgraceful is a nice way to put it.
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to keep this short and sweet i bought a vette from the florida 2 months ago i shipped it to the uk on the 19th of august and picked it up last friday 4th september ..brilliant you say !!! yes indeed ..but the day after the the vette sailed for the uk i ordered a uk wiring harness from ecklers and yes the car beat the wiring harness to the uk !! in fact its now the 13th sept that makes it 24 days !!! i wouldnt usually mind but i had to pay an extortionate amount for the postage to the uk ,i have emailed them 4 times now with no reply and i have even rang but got no satisfactory reply . i think it must be coming by row boat ..
now going to order it from somewhere else and they can have their wiring harness back...
i am with you guys and will never use or recommend them again..

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I would hope that EVERY Corvette owner has read this and gets the point of this thread.

Eckler's is a JOKE. The have screwed more people than all the other Corvette resellers combined and that's a fact.
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Originally Posted by Hudson
I would hope that EVERY Corvette owner has read this and gets the point of this thread.

Eckler's is a JOKE. The have screwed more people than all the other Corvette resellers combined and that's a fact.
I've never been screwed by them. I purchased from them a few years ago for misc stuff out of convenience.

I probably would never purchase from them because of their ridiculous prices and now this.

Did you get screwd by them?

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