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Old Oct 26, 2009 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by zeevette
at any speed above walking, the hot air sucking argument is no longer valid.
Could this be said for an intake design like a Halltech Venom?
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Old Oct 26, 2009 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 03 Z-oh-6
Could this be said for an intake design like a Halltech Venom?
Yes, and no. It sits on top of the radiator shroud, so if you have a Z06 with the open screens, it gets some outside air. Standard Corvettes have that area blocked off.
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Old Oct 26, 2009 | 09:24 PM
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They both work well, take your pick. I have had a vararam a few years now but I prefer the finish of the Honker and the relocation of the MAF.
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Old Oct 26, 2009 | 10:54 PM
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One sucks air all the time, One rams air at speed! Do the math! Seat of the pants is the real deciding factor on this question. VRB2
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Old Oct 26, 2009 | 11:47 PM
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I've switched and decided on the vararam. It's a true CAI and half the price of the honker. Probably performs a bit better, too. I'll deal with the sub par quality.
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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by SaberD
there is a reason why they didnt design the radiator shroud with a hole in it. it is supposed to capture air and force the air through the radiator. if you put a hole in it, its not going to be forcing as much air through the radiator because the pressure in the area is released through the hole in the shroud. At low speeds, where there isnt as much pressure, heat will rise off the radiator because there is not sufficient pressure in the shroud area to force air through the radiator. therfore, you will be sucking in hot air from the radiator. its common sense really.
With that statement I can tell you don't really know what your talking about and you already have your mind made up on which CAI you want.

Good luck with your purchase
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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 06:40 AM
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Vararam simply WORKS! I picked up 3.5-4 mph at the track only with the addition of the Vararam. No brainer choice when looking at results if you ask me

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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by printmanjackson
With that statement I can tell you don't really know what your talking about and you already have your mind made up on which CAI you want.

Good luck with your purchase
i dont plan on buying either the vararam or the honker. im not a huge fan of either design for a daily driver. i have been in many situations where cars beside me have thrown up huge walls of water on my car, and if i had the vararam, i could almost guarantee you the engine would have sucked in enough water to hydrolock. for the honker, i would have to agree that at any speed above around 5mph, the air would certainly still be going through the radiator. im sorry, but i sit at stop lights and have a lot of bumper to bumper traffic after work in the hot summer where this situation fully applies. can someone provide an explanation to why the honker would NOT decrease the pressure under the radiator shroud?
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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 10:26 AM
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I took my Honker off and installed a Vararam.I picked up a solid 2/10's and 3 mph at the track.BTW since the air intake for the Vararam is at least 8 inches higher than the bottom feeding Honker you would be more likely to hydrlock with the Honker.But really very unlikely for both.
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Originally Posted by rebelheart
I took my Honker off and installed a Vararam.I picked up a solid 2/10's and 3 mph at the track.
Good to know!
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Originally Posted by rebelheart
I took my Honker off and installed a Vararam.I picked up a solid 2/10's and 3 mph at the track.BTW since the air intake for the Vararam is at least 8 inches higher than the bottom feeding Honker you would be more likely to hydrlock with the Honker.But really very unlikely for both.
Driven mine through tons of downpours. If you're driving through deep water even your stock intake will suck water.
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Originally Posted by JW@JWMotoring.com
Driven mine through tons of downpours. If you're driving through deep water even your stock intake will suck water.
When does the sale end for $255 shipped?
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Not sure if it's going to be extended through Nov or not. It's been month to month the past few months. I'll find out.
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Anyone want a used vararam ? I had it for just a few months 200.00
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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 02:21 PM
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I have a Callaway Honker and couldn’t be happier with it. I too considered the Vararam but after reading all of the well documented issues with quality and more importantly problems with the filter fitment I decided $200 and maybe a tenth of a second wasn’t worth the long term risk of engine damage due to poor filtration. After reading some of the other comments that have been made I have decided to add to the confusion with a few of my own.


Hydro-locking –It would probably take some very extreme circumstance for that to happen with either of the intakes you are considering so I wouldn’t be too concerned about it.

    Adverse affect on Honker performance due to radiator heat when sitting in traffic. – Arguably this might have a very slight impact on performance but keep in mind most of the times when you are sitting in traffic your fans are running and drawing in cool outside air into the cowl area thereby largely negating this issue. If we apply the same logic and concern to the Vararam, wouldn’t the low intake ducts on the Vararam be prone to drawing in heat radiating up from the asphalt (especially here in Florida)? I feel that both concerns are nonsense in anything short of lab conditions.


      Pressure under the cowl. – This too seems to be a non issue; the purpose of the cowl is to direct air flow and what little pressurization might occur would be hardly measurable and is only a side effect. This area obviously flows more air than what is needed by the radiator and the intake combined otherwise every car with a Honker installed would overheat and I can assure the installation of the Honker on my car has had no effect on the operating temperatures. Also, keep in mind the Callaway system is a cold air intake and not a ram-air intake as the Vararam is purported to be.


      Based on my first hand knowledge, the Callaway Honker is expensive but the quality is top notch and it looks like it came from the factory. Most importantly to me the filter fits and seals perfectly. Do your research and get the one that fits your needs and budget; however I do think at least to some extent the old adage “you get what you pay for” may apply here. If you decide on the Honker you can save some good $$ buying one used off the forum as I did.

      Good Luck
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      Originally Posted by arkus
      Anyone want a used vararam ? I had it for just a few months 200.00
      I just might...can ya send pics to mikeb58@nc.rr.com...
      Thanks....

      Between this and an exhaust I'm just about to go out of my mind on what to get
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      Originally Posted by arkus
      Anyone want a used vararam ? I had it for just a few months 200.00
      I'll take it, send me your paypal info and I'll get money out ASAP. Thanks, "pear"
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      Not sure if this matters to you but the Honker is the only CAI that is CARB legal (and probably why it costs more). This is one reason I bought a Honker here in nanny state CA.
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      I've never had the Honker,so I can't vouch for it.

      I didn't experience the "QUALITY" problem some have reported.I have installed & helped install several over the past 2 yrs or so.The plastic is thin,but fairly ez to wrestle( or in the South rassle) Ha.....


      Not sure where others placed the MAF,but mine is in the OEM position.Works as intended.

      The Power Duct and the Halltech Honeycomb screen complements the VRB2 well.Look at "My Corvette Photos" for a pic of mine.

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      Originally Posted by dbaker
      I've never had the Honker,so I can't vouch for it.

      I didn't experience the "QUALITY" problem some have reported.I have installed & helped install several over the past 2 yrs or so.The plastic is thin,but fairly ez to wrestle( or in the South rassle) Ha.....


      Not sure where others placed the MAF,but mine is in the OEM position.Works as intended.

      The Power Duct and the Halltech Honeycomb screen complements the VRB2 well.Look at "My Corvette Photos" for a pic of mine.

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      Did you install the Halltech honeycomb screen because of a check engine light?
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