Not my Paxton if your not listening you don't hear it! And it doesn't fall on it's face, it just keeps pulling!

 

Maybe some centrifugals, but not the Paxton line of centrifugals! They are very quiet, and do not make the car sound like there is a problem with it to an untrained ear.

 

I've heard comments like this. I've never heard a Paxton in person. I know some of the Vortech superchargers are fairly quiet - maybe you can hear a slight whistle at idle. So these might be interesting. And I know centris pull like a mother up top. They give performance closer to a turbo. The roots deliver their power at different points and the new TVS's even different. As I said earlier I have no idea where Kenne Bell fits in but notice it is not selected for use as often by Corvette people.

On my end, I have people telling me ProCharger is the way to go. It pushes the most cfm and that Paxtons are unreliable and break down. Now I know several shops that post here regularly hold the paxtons in high regard and they are reputable shops. My local guys most likely just do not have enough experience with them.

Thanks for the info

 

I think the only reasons fewer Corvette owners have gone with the Kenne Bell, is it's size, and styling. It's not as pretty as a Maggie, and there's only one (that I know of) aftermarket hood that'll fit it's larger bulk, and it's not exactly subtle. Performance-wise, it probably has more potential than a Maggie, and maybe even some centris.

 

The numbers don't lie. If you go to ECS and see the lot full of cars going with a paxton you might think different. And besides if you want to go fast, somewhere along the line (doens't matter which brand) it's gonna break!



And no I,m not a rep for ECS! Just love my blown bitch!

 

I agree. and before I make my decision, I'm going to have to schedule a trip to ECS.

 

Hattitude,

How do you like your KB? What did it dyno and what other mods did you do?

 

This book will clear a lot of the mysteries before modding your ride = http://www.amazon.com/Dyno-Proven-Th.../dp/1932494405

 

Procharger makes a great head unit, and we offer our kit with any Procharger, Vortech, or Paxton head unit, but we prefer the Paxtons. I have a Novi 2000 on my own C5, and although there are several other Mods done to the car, it is presently the quickest supercharged C5 @ 8.63 in the 1/4 mile.
They have been extremely reliable for us, with a near zero come back rate. With the volume that we sell, that is very impressive to me. Here is a video of some dessert torture testing we did on my car in the Silver State classic, we had two cars there that were kept at over 5,000 RPM for 90 miles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yb9JmPyPaDE

Also if you follow the boards closely enough, you will find that many of the guys that race the most regularly, are running our Paxton kits. We feel it is due to the results, and reliability of the entire kit.

We have a strong argument to the "lack of low end" people often associate with centrifugal superchargers with our exclusive ECS restrictor plate design that comes with our base kits. It allows us to make much more low end torque then any other centrifugal kit on the market today, without over boosting the top end. This is why our torque to HP ratio's are much closer then other kits, yet you have the top end also, with expandabilty on tap if you wish.

If you have any questions, just let me know.

Thanks, Doug





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My vette is just a weekend, street only toy. I have my KB at 7 psi, had my tuner give it a conservative tune, and I have no other engine mods for now (other than shorty headers, for CARB reasons).

I have 508 RWHP, 451 TQ. and an 11.5 AFR.

Quite frankly, this thing is stupid fast! It comes on right away and pulls all the way to redline (the few opportunities I've had to "test" it).

There is a lot of "brand" and "type" loyalty on this forum. Some are quite vocal about their results and opinions. While it can get childish, their loyalty proves that ANY type or brand will work excellent, if installed and set-up correctly.

I personally believe that ANY super charger is the way to go if you want instant power. If you stay conservative, you maintain drivability and good gas mileage (if you can stay out of boost). Or........ you can spend a bunch to get out on the edge, upgrade your drivetrain and push the boost up....... bingo....... incredibly fast race car.

I think the key is to work with one of the vendors on this forum. Tell them your goals (street, strip, track, or dyno killer) and your wants (I said I was old school, my supercharger HAD to sit on TOP of the engine). Then listen to what they suggest.....

Finally, it is critical to get a good tune, from someone who knows what he's doing.

I lucked out..... I worked with a couple excellent vendors (CMS & TPE) to make mine happen and I am totally pleased. The research was kind of fun too, but the results........ WOW!!

Good Luck whichever way you decide to go...

 

Couple of questions. which hood did you get to cover your KB? And do you have a dyno sheet I could see? I'd like to see the curve. Does a KB have a distinctive sound when it spools up? I think its pretty quiet at idle.

 

That video was very impressive. I am envious about doing that.
Thanks for sharing.

Andy

 

Hattitude,

Thanks for the information, I was concerned about the hood that KB gives you in the kit; how is the quality of the hood specially under the hood; you know fit and finish. I live in the San Francisco Bay area and there is two great tuners in my area for set up. Did you change the rest of the exhaust behind the shorty headers? I have CARB issues up here to.

 

My only question is, if you have a roots blower, who's main accolade is low end grunt, then why such a large split in your HP to TQ numbers?


Thank you Andy, the open road events like that are a blast.

 

Question: I believe I saw the tranny was a 4L60 correct? Why did you not go with a 6-spd?

Or looks like if you stay with the auto, you need additional tranny coolers. Its a shame on the run in the video, seems like the car could have given more but the tranny said no.

Regardless, I really enjoyed it as this is the first video I've seen where the whole car was being used almost to its limit and not for a few seconds but for a decent amount of time rather than just bursts.

Regardless it was a truly impressive run, and instilled confidence in my C5Z to the overall design of the C5Z.

 

Talk is cheap and opinions vary. As far as being somewhat childish, Yea so what it's all in good fun. Although that's how I take it., it's nothing personal. Every been to a race track, Smack talk is just part of the fun!!!!! My friends and I are close and when we talk who's kickin who azz it can get down right nasty, but we all stay friends. Just my 2 cents!

 

Yes my car was a 4l60 at that time, we also took another 346 Paxton car that was a six speed too. The owner of that car did well, and we both drove them on and off the trailers, so we both won!

Besides the fun factor, our main mission was to basically do destructive testing on our SC kit. There's no real way to duplicate red line, or near it, for 90 miles in the heat otherwise.

I took my drag car to the event, with the only change being a rear swap to a 2.73, but with a 3800 stall converter, the trans temps were the biggest battle. It was somewhat of a last minute thing I was invited too, so we just gave it go and went. Definitely not the car I would have built for the event, but I had a great time non the less.

Glad you enjoyed the video.

 

I'm not sure if it is NY/NJ thing, or just a racing thing, but most guys who race can have a heated argument in the pits, and buy each other a beer afterwards. Some might take it as more literal then it really is IMHO.

 

 

The fit and finish of the hood was very good. A forum member who owns a body shop (TORCH FRC) painted and installed it for me and liked it. I believe the hood is made for KB by RK Sports. At first it looked a little too big, but it's grown on me and I like it now.

I used B&B shorties which bolted right up, like changing exhaust manifolds. I did it mostly for looks and a little weight savings to offset some of the blower weight. I left the rest of the exhaust stock Z06.