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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 06:53 PM
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After watching most of the ROLEX 24, I began to wonder why we do not see sequential gear-boxes in more sports cars....and of course Corvettes. I can only assume that it is cost-related and maybe a general re-learn for drivers.

I have always enjoyed the ease of operating a sequential in my bikes, never use the clutch for upshifts and barely a nudge for downshifts. It would be cool, and in looking at pictures it does not seem to be a major packaging issue. In fact, the sequential units are much slimmer than H-boxes for sure.

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Originally Posted by ALLEGRO
After watching most of the ROLEX 24, I began to wonder why we do not see sequential gear-boxes in sports cars....and of course Corvettes. I can only assume that it is cost-related and maybe a general re-learn for drivers.

I have always enjoyed the ease of operating a sequential in my bikes, never use the clutch for upshifts and barely a nudge for downshifts. It would be cool, and in looking at pictures it does not seem to be a major packaging issue. In fact, the sequential units are much slimmer than H-boxes for sure.

Okay experts........let her rip !!!
Ummm....




BMW SMG



VW DSG



Ferrari F1



Nissan DCT



Porsche PDK



Vanquish had an electronically shifted T56



Toyota MR-S had a sequential manual as well.



And LG Motorsports has successfully put an EMCO sequential trans into a C6. However it's LOUD.
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I wondered if sound was an issue. Still can't figure out why they would be louder than H's
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 07:34 PM
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Probably straight cut gears.
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 07:48 PM
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Mose race transmissions are noisy (listen to the 4spd h-pattern transmissions in a Nextel car or an old m-22 rock crusher). It's engineered for ultimate durability w/o any noise considerations.
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by BanditDude
Mose race transmissions are noisy (listen to the 4spd h-pattern transmissions in a Nextel car or an old m-22 rock crusher). It's engineered for ultimate durability w/o any noise considerations.
Precisely what I'm talking about. Those trannies have straight cut gears. Just like 18 wheelers.
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Sequential would be nice as a replacement for the auto tranny. But I like my H shifter, just because it gives me more options and is more fun to drive
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There you have it, cost and noise.
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Originally Posted by ALLEGRO
There you have it, cost and noise.
What's a lil NVH between you and your baby.......
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Guess I'm a traditionalist I like the H myself,,not to mention MUCH easier and quicker to hit neutral in traffic!! I must admit I DO like it on my bike though!!
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Originally Posted by irvbulldogs72
What's a lil NVH between you and your baby.......
What's NVH?
What's with the length of the shifter? That would get in the way of hiway sex.
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The length of the shifter is to allow shifts under full throttle and no clutch disengage. It takes quite a bit of effort to engage the dog-clutches. In those vids, you can hear the friction transfer as he prepares to up and down shift.

You see much shorter shifters on true racing cars, but you will also notice they really hammer the shifter every time.
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cost vs actual usage for the street??????

In a true race car and race environment sure why not, but for the street....NTH (nice to have?)
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Repeat, what's NVH?
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Originally Posted by JETZ

There you go.

Besides they are LOUD. and most ppl who drive on the street would not like the noise of straight cut sequential gears
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Originally Posted by Castrellon
What's NVH?
What's with the length of the shifter? That would get in the way of hiway sex.
Longer sift leaves shift quicker then a short shifter. Plus only need to move your hand a few inches from the steering wheel
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