I'm a mere mortal. I'm an electrician by trade. But when I step into the cockpit of my torch red fighter, I'm a super-man. I'm God like and cannot be defeated. I'm awesome, there isn't anyone I can't beat. While driving my car, the girls swoon over me. At ever stop light, they flock to me, all seeking a ride, in my ride. My car completes me, it gives me the confidence to talk to women at stop lights. The gas station attendants all respect me, and politely close the filler cap and wipe off any gasoline over fill. Trucks and busses all move out of the left lane for me. At fast food drive ups, the employee always asks if I need extra napkins in case of a spill. Only supercars get this kind of attention, and only supercars can turn a man into a superman.. Be back soon, I ran out of Aqua-Velva.

 

 

Not a snowball's chance that any C5 is a supercar. Other than the C6 ZR1, I am not sure ANY Corvette is a supercar.

 

You sir have a SUPER........small *****

 

By my own terms the C5 Z06 is just a track car bread for the street. It is a great Sportscar do not get me wrong. I love mine, but it is not a supercar. For an interesting link that shows what defines a supercar and how the term came to what it means today you can look here. And by the way they define the term not even the C6 ZR-1 is consider a supercar.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercar

 

What an excellent analogy! Yes, Civics are autocross ready as sold at the dealer.... Youre kidding right? Civics are pupose built economy cars not track cars. Muscle cars are hardly supercars. Most 60s and 70s muscle cars arent even fast by the last 10 year standards.

Just the fact that Z06's in stock trim including tires, can be tracked, and raced against Porsche, Ferrari etc. puts them in suprcar class. Why are the cars it competes against supercars but its not?

 

I think the "supercar" moniker requires the vehicle to be "exclusive". While the C5 Z06 was the most expensive GM sports car at the time, you could walk into any Chebby dealer across the US and get one.

 

It wasn't an anology. It was true by your definition. No, I'm not kidding. Why do you think civics cannot be autocrossed from the dealer? People autocross rental cars. They work fine. Your definition of a supercar is just wrong. Just as most people's definition of a muscle car is just wrong. Of course real muscle cars are not fast by todays standards. Just as C5Z06's are not fast by today's supercar standards. And they're only ten years old.

Supercars are not mass produced by the thousands on automated assembly lines and sold for $48,000. You cannont buy a supercar in good condition for $18,000. They don't choose parts and designs with price as a primary concern when building a supercar. And 911s are also not supercars. They too are sports cars.

 

I don't think it was even that. My Z06 stickered for $48,500 with the dual memory package and the electrochomatic mirrors. I'm pretty sure a loaded up 'vert would have cost more than that.

 

They are not "Super cars!" But they are super duper cars (said with limp wrist.)

Stetson, beats Aqua velva any day GeorgeZN; it has more sweet notes and a smoother finish

 

If a Ferrari 355/360/430 or Porche 997 Turbo isn't considered a supercar... then a C5Zo6 (or C6Zo6) sure as hell aren't.
Get real.

Supercars: F40/50/Enzo - Diablo/Murc - Zonda - McLaren - etc

^ they are the "Unobtainable "

 

+_1 :i agree: How did you know that i sport a mullet

 

Great sports car, yes. Supercar, no. Fast as hell, ten years ago. And still pretty quick today.

I wish it was a supercar, then I clould sell it for $250,000.

 

You missed George's whole point, which was humorous. Thanks, George!

You can't spend 10 seconds inside a Corvette, and in any way confuse it with a "supercar". It's a Chevy, through and through. Best damn bow tie ever made, IMO. It can be easily modified to outperform any supercar, and still be hacked at by shade-tree DIY'ers like me for relatively cheap. I can't believe I own a car that can get over 600 hp, and be docile in traffic, and get 25-30 mpgs. Looks sexy as hell, turning heads everywhere but maybe Rodeo Drive. (Not my usual hangout). It's not a "Supercar", but IMO, it's a miracle.

 

Very well said!

 

The point is that Civics are not purpose built for speed, handling or anything but fuel economy. Z06's were built with speed, handling and GM marketed them as weekend autocross cars. Price doesnt define a supercar either....

 

I 2nd that statement, very true.

Agreed.

I look at the C5Z06 as a car that ran with supercar numbers of that era (6 to 9 years ago), but it’s not in fact a supercar.
My definition of supercar is:
1. Exclusivity
2. Huge Price Tag
3. Big HP/Torque, Performance Number
4. Mid engine (of course this is a debatable criteria)
5. Rear drive only (again a debatable point, since Porsche, Lambo and Audi make AWD supercars).
6. Has to look like nothing else on the road.

A C6ZR1 is this a supercar? It sure meets a lot of the criteria on my list. But to me for some reason, I still can’t consider it a super car, because it’s still looks like a Corvette.


Actually this is not entirely true. Even cars like the Gallardo, F430, 911 Turbo take price into consideration, they’re just at a higher price point than Corvette. And these cars do share use parts from the parts bin. Gallardo gets parts from the Audi parts bin, F430 shares parts with the Maserati GT and QuattroPorte, 911 with the Carrera which in turn shares stuff with the Boxster/Cayman.

I do think there are a new/different breed of cars, called “hyper cars”. Which don’t take price into consideration and wouldn’t be caught dead sharing parts with lesser models. These are the Enzos, MC12s, Veyrons, Carrera GTs, Zondas, etc…

 

I refer to it more of a supercar slayer, as it somehow isn't quite a true supercar itself, yet performs on par or better than many true supercars. Isn't a true supercar in my eyes mainly just because of one of it's primary attributes in that it doesn't carry an exotic pricetag.

 

You are correct. That's why I said they don't chose parts and designs with cost as a PRIMARY concern. And I still say the 911 turbo is not a supercar. Maybe, just maybe the GT2 is. I wouldn't argue with that. But the turbo doesn't qualify. Neither does the C6Z06.

 

Actually Type-R and Si Civics are built with performance in mind. Lots of cars are built with speed and handling and marketed as such. None of them are supercars either.