Gas Station Pump Problem
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Racer
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From: Euless TX
Gas Station Pump Problem
I have 03 vette stock....when i go to any gas station and try to put gas the pump keeps cutting off as if its full....i take pump out of tank put back in it goes for a couple of sec then does again... ive tried shell mobile valero racetrack... all diff places and all do it.. .any suggestions?
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St. Jude Donor '12-'13-'14
Has it always done that?
Try pumping slower. Some pumps deliver fuel to fast and cause the problems.
On the other hand (and this is a reach) perhpas your siphon pump isn't transferring fuel from the driver side tank to the passenger side tank quickly enough and you really are filling it up (just on one side).
(I told you it was a reach).
Try pumping slower. Some pumps deliver fuel to fast and cause the problems.
On the other hand (and this is a reach) perhpas your siphon pump isn't transferring fuel from the driver side tank to the passenger side tank quickly enough and you really are filling it up (just on one side).
(I told you it was a reach).
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Racer
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it didnt at first but until a couple of months ago... if i go slower it does do better then if i just hold the pump at full blast! i can fill tank all the way up to full just takes a while....
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From: Wylie TX --> Less is More, except under the hood !
Mine does the same quite a bit.
What I do it rotate the entire handle 90 degrees and it pumps fine. I find if I move the handle towards the rear of the car it pumps with no issues. Not sure why... but it works ok for me.
Toque
What I do it rotate the entire handle 90 degrees and it pumps fine. I find if I move the handle towards the rear of the car it pumps with no issues. Not sure why... but it works ok for me.
Toque
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From: Wylie TX --> Less is More, except under the hood !
No ....... upside down would be rotating the handle 180 degrees from the way you would normally pump gas in your car.
Rotate the handle towards the back of the car. 90 degrees from the way you would normally pump gas in your car.
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St. Jude Donor '06-'08-'10
Problem is your 91 octane winds up as 16 octane so until the gas turns right side up again the car will run a little rough.
If you search in the Tech section I believe some people posted similar symptoms with the tank venting system causing a problem.
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Just some helpful tips!
1. Fill up with gas when it is cool outside. The best time to get gas is in the morning when it is cooler outside. Service stations store their fuel tanks below ground. If the ground is cooler the gasoline will be more dense. Heat causes gas to expand, so if you are getting gas when it is hot outside then you may not be receiving a complete gallon, even though the pump indicates a gallon. The specific gravity and temperature of fuel is very significant. This includes diesel, gasoline, ethanol, jet fuel, and other petroleum products. Each truckload of fuel is temperature-compensated. This is done so that the indicated gallon gage is actually the amount pumped. Even the slightest rise in temperature makes a big difference for businesses. The problem is that service stations don't have temperature compensation at their pumps. That's why the outside temperature can make a difference in how much fuel you get.
2. Don't buy gas if a tank truck is filling the station's tank at that time. We have all seen the big tank truck in the parking lot at one time or another. When these tank trucks deliver the gas sludge and dirt is being stirred up in the tank. So, if you are filling up at the time you might be putting some of that dirt into your vehicle's tank.
3. Don't wait until "empty" to fill up. The best time to fill up is when or gas tank is half empty. The more gas you have in your tank the less air there is in your tank. Gasoline evaporates fast, and it will evaporate even more rapidly when it is warm. Gas tanks are equipped with an internal floating roof membrane to serve as a barrier between the atmosphere and the gas. This minimizes evaporation, so you'll want to fill up more often.
4. Pump gas on the "slow" setting. Usually, the trigger on the fuel pump will have a fast, medium, and slow delivery option. You need to use the slow setting. Using the slow setting will reduce the vapors created in the process of pumping. The hoses at fuel pumps are corrugated. These corrugations act as a return path for vapor recovery from gas that already has been metered. At the fast pumping setting, the agitated gas contains more vapor. This vapor is sucked back underground into the tank, and this causes you to receive less gas than what the pump indicates.
1. Fill up with gas when it is cool outside. The best time to get gas is in the morning when it is cooler outside. Service stations store their fuel tanks below ground. If the ground is cooler the gasoline will be more dense. Heat causes gas to expand, so if you are getting gas when it is hot outside then you may not be receiving a complete gallon, even though the pump indicates a gallon. The specific gravity and temperature of fuel is very significant. This includes diesel, gasoline, ethanol, jet fuel, and other petroleum products. Each truckload of fuel is temperature-compensated. This is done so that the indicated gallon gage is actually the amount pumped. Even the slightest rise in temperature makes a big difference for businesses. The problem is that service stations don't have temperature compensation at their pumps. That's why the outside temperature can make a difference in how much fuel you get.
2. Don't buy gas if a tank truck is filling the station's tank at that time. We have all seen the big tank truck in the parking lot at one time or another. When these tank trucks deliver the gas sludge and dirt is being stirred up in the tank. So, if you are filling up at the time you might be putting some of that dirt into your vehicle's tank.
3. Don't wait until "empty" to fill up. The best time to fill up is when or gas tank is half empty. The more gas you have in your tank the less air there is in your tank. Gasoline evaporates fast, and it will evaporate even more rapidly when it is warm. Gas tanks are equipped with an internal floating roof membrane to serve as a barrier between the atmosphere and the gas. This minimizes evaporation, so you'll want to fill up more often.
4. Pump gas on the "slow" setting. Usually, the trigger on the fuel pump will have a fast, medium, and slow delivery option. You need to use the slow setting. Using the slow setting will reduce the vapors created in the process of pumping. The hoses at fuel pumps are corrugated. These corrugations act as a return path for vapor recovery from gas that already has been metered. At the fast pumping setting, the agitated gas contains more vapor. This vapor is sucked back underground into the tank, and this causes you to receive less gas than what the pump indicates.
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St. Jude Donor '12-'13-'14
Just some helpful tips!
1. Fill up with gas when it is cool outside. The best time to get gas is in the morning when it is cooler outside. Service stations store their fuel tanks below ground. If the ground is cooler the gasoline will be more dense. Heat causes gas to expand, so if you are getting gas when it is hot outside then you may not be receiving a complete gallon, even though the pump indicates a gallon. The specific gravity and temperature of fuel is very significant. This includes diesel, gasoline, ethanol, jet fuel, and other petroleum products. Each truckload of fuel is temperature-compensated. This is done so that the indicated gallon gage is actually the amount pumped. Even the slightest rise in temperature makes a big difference for businesses. The problem is that service stations don't have temperature compensation at their pumps. That's why the outside temperature can make a difference in how much fuel you get.
2. Don't buy gas if a tank truck is filling the station's tank at that time. We have all seen the big tank truck in the parking lot at one time or another. When these tank trucks deliver the gas sludge and dirt is being stirred up in the tank. So, if you are filling up at the time you might be putting some of that dirt into your vehicle's tank.
3. Don't wait until "empty" to fill up. The best time to fill up is when or gas tank is half empty. The more gas you have in your tank the less air there is in your tank. Gasoline evaporates fast, and it will evaporate even more rapidly when it is warm. Gas tanks are equipped with an internal floating roof membrane to serve as a barrier between the atmosphere and the gas. This minimizes evaporation, so you'll want to fill up more often.
4. Pump gas on the "slow" setting. Usually, the trigger on the fuel pump will have a fast, medium, and slow delivery option. You need to use the slow setting. Using the slow setting will reduce the vapors created in the process of pumping. The hoses at fuel pumps are corrugated. These corrugations act as a return path for vapor recovery from gas that already has been metered. At the fast pumping setting, the agitated gas contains more vapor. This vapor is sucked back underground into the tank, and this causes you to receive less gas than what the pump indicates.
1. Fill up with gas when it is cool outside. The best time to get gas is in the morning when it is cooler outside. Service stations store their fuel tanks below ground. If the ground is cooler the gasoline will be more dense. Heat causes gas to expand, so if you are getting gas when it is hot outside then you may not be receiving a complete gallon, even though the pump indicates a gallon. The specific gravity and temperature of fuel is very significant. This includes diesel, gasoline, ethanol, jet fuel, and other petroleum products. Each truckload of fuel is temperature-compensated. This is done so that the indicated gallon gage is actually the amount pumped. Even the slightest rise in temperature makes a big difference for businesses. The problem is that service stations don't have temperature compensation at their pumps. That's why the outside temperature can make a difference in how much fuel you get.
2. Don't buy gas if a tank truck is filling the station's tank at that time. We have all seen the big tank truck in the parking lot at one time or another. When these tank trucks deliver the gas sludge and dirt is being stirred up in the tank. So, if you are filling up at the time you might be putting some of that dirt into your vehicle's tank.
3. Don't wait until "empty" to fill up. The best time to fill up is when or gas tank is half empty. The more gas you have in your tank the less air there is in your tank. Gasoline evaporates fast, and it will evaporate even more rapidly when it is warm. Gas tanks are equipped with an internal floating roof membrane to serve as a barrier between the atmosphere and the gas. This minimizes evaporation, so you'll want to fill up more often.
4. Pump gas on the "slow" setting. Usually, the trigger on the fuel pump will have a fast, medium, and slow delivery option. You need to use the slow setting. Using the slow setting will reduce the vapors created in the process of pumping. The hoses at fuel pumps are corrugated. These corrugations act as a return path for vapor recovery from gas that already has been metered. At the fast pumping setting, the agitated gas contains more vapor. This vapor is sucked back underground into the tank, and this causes you to receive less gas than what the pump indicates.
I don't agree with #2 above.
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Usually the pump Handle/Nozzel works off pressure, once the tank is full it raises the presure and the handle kicks itself off. At least that has always been my expierence. Do you fill the tank when it's dead empty? Sometimes if you start pumping and it kicks off, pull the nozzel out a few inches and then put back in and resume filling. That has always worked for me.
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St. Jude Donor '12-'13-'14
Just some helpful tips!
1. Fill up with gas when it is cool outside. The best time to get gas is in the morning when it is cooler outside. Service stations store their fuel tanks below ground. If the ground is cooler the gasoline will be more dense. Heat causes gas to expand, so if you are getting gas when it is hot outside then you may not be receiving a complete gallon, even though the pump indicates a gallon. The specific gravity and temperature of fuel is very significant. This includes diesel, gasoline, ethanol, jet fuel, and other petroleum products. Each truckload of fuel is temperature-compensated. This is done so that the indicated gallon gage is actually the amount pumped. Even the slightest rise in temperature makes a big difference for businesses. The problem is that service stations don't have temperature compensation at their pumps. That's why the outside temperature can make a difference in how much fuel you get.
2. Don't buy gas if a tank truck is filling the station's tank at that time. We have all seen the big tank truck in the parking lot at one time or another. When these tank trucks deliver the gas sludge and dirt is being stirred up in the tank. So, if you are filling up at the time you might be putting some of that dirt into your vehicle's tank.
3. Don't wait until "empty" to fill up. The best time to fill up is when or gas tank is half empty. The more gas you have in your tank the less air there is in your tank. Gasoline evaporates fast, and it will evaporate even more rapidly when it is warm. Gas tanks are equipped with an internal floating roof membrane to serve as a barrier between the atmosphere and the gas. This minimizes evaporation, so you'll want to fill up more often.
4. Pump gas on the "slow" setting. Usually, the trigger on the fuel pump will have a fast, medium, and slow delivery option. You need to use the slow setting. Using the slow setting will reduce the vapors created in the process of pumping. The hoses at fuel pumps are corrugated. These corrugations act as a return path for vapor recovery from gas that already has been metered. At the fast pumping setting, the agitated gas contains more vapor. This vapor is sucked back underground into the tank, and this causes you to receive less gas than what the pump indicates.
1. Fill up with gas when it is cool outside. The best time to get gas is in the morning when it is cooler outside. Service stations store their fuel tanks below ground. If the ground is cooler the gasoline will be more dense. Heat causes gas to expand, so if you are getting gas when it is hot outside then you may not be receiving a complete gallon, even though the pump indicates a gallon. The specific gravity and temperature of fuel is very significant. This includes diesel, gasoline, ethanol, jet fuel, and other petroleum products. Each truckload of fuel is temperature-compensated. This is done so that the indicated gallon gage is actually the amount pumped. Even the slightest rise in temperature makes a big difference for businesses. The problem is that service stations don't have temperature compensation at their pumps. That's why the outside temperature can make a difference in how much fuel you get.
2. Don't buy gas if a tank truck is filling the station's tank at that time. We have all seen the big tank truck in the parking lot at one time or another. When these tank trucks deliver the gas sludge and dirt is being stirred up in the tank. So, if you are filling up at the time you might be putting some of that dirt into your vehicle's tank.
3. Don't wait until "empty" to fill up. The best time to fill up is when or gas tank is half empty. The more gas you have in your tank the less air there is in your tank. Gasoline evaporates fast, and it will evaporate even more rapidly when it is warm. Gas tanks are equipped with an internal floating roof membrane to serve as a barrier between the atmosphere and the gas. This minimizes evaporation, so you'll want to fill up more often.
4. Pump gas on the "slow" setting. Usually, the trigger on the fuel pump will have a fast, medium, and slow delivery option. You need to use the slow setting. Using the slow setting will reduce the vapors created in the process of pumping. The hoses at fuel pumps are corrugated. These corrugations act as a return path for vapor recovery from gas that already has been metered. At the fast pumping setting, the agitated gas contains more vapor. This vapor is sucked back underground into the tank, and this causes you to receive less gas than what the pump indicates.
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Yeah my uncle sent it to me in a E-mail. But yes you are correct for the old time gas stations #2 would apply but for most places it doesn't. But the rest is very helpful. But no filtration system is a 100% so even tho they work 99% of the time I just wouldn't wanna be that 1%. And I only fill up in the morning or at night unless im traveling. I never go under a quarter of a tank my dad told me not to go under when I was a kid so to this day I hardly go under a quarter.
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I think it's the gas station pump that is the problem. I had that problem at one station only. He tried to convince me it was the car. I went down the block and filled it without problem. I've been filling it at gas stations all over the state for years with no problem but the one station. (Actually the attendant must fill it. I'm in New Jersey and by law can't fill my own tank - its too dangerous)
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I think it's the gas station pump that is the problem. I had that problem at one station only. He tried to convince me it was the car. I went down the block and filled it without problem. I've been filling it at gas stations all over the state for years with no problem but the one station. (Actually the attendant must fill it. I'm in New Jersey and by law can't fill my own tank - its too dangerous)
Haha when I was a kid we had 1 full service gas station where I lived and I always thought it was cool. And the guy that owned it became good friends with my family. But im pretty sure your gas is cheaper and thus the extra money for for full service weighs itself out to the average gas prices in the US. And I believe Oregon dose the same thing. But I do think this is a good thing for people who don't check there fluids ofter.