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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 04:05 PM
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With all the concerns about the CPU below the battery, has anyone here put in a Battery Tray Mat? While not a huge fan of automotive dodads on flea bay the description of a battery tray mat makes some sense, and for only 10 bucks................
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 04:26 PM
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I go one better, I will only run a AGM Battery.
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I go one better, I will only run a AGM Battery.
The safest solution IMHO.
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by c5BlackBeauty
The safest solution IMHO.
Diddo that one !
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 04:38 PM
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Any suggested AGM brands, etc.?
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Oldvetter
I go one better, I will only run a AGM Battery.
I am so sorry, but what is an AGM battery, and is there a brand I am looking for, and the always important question in this pathetic economy, about how much are they?
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 09:18 PM
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Robert,

The old "sky is falling" cry about leaking batteries is not only irrelevant today, but it is also a good source of needless money-spending on batteries that are no longer necessary.

Leaky batteries were last produced in 2000. All batteries made since then are of much higher build quality and robustness, eliminating the threat of acid leaks onto sensitive electronic components. So no, you do NOT have to buy a $120+ battery for your C5. A $60 Costco Kirkland or $75 Walmart MAXX battery will not only perform as well as most AGM batteries, but will also last up to 8 years without ever leaking.

Save your money and ignore the long-irrelevant panic cries that tend to reverberate from a time long ago.
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 10:21 PM
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My battery came with a foam cozy that wrapped around the battery. I just cut it up and laid it in the tray. I doubt the battery will leak but now it has a tempurpedic mattress so it's always happy.
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I have a matt under my battery just to be safe, they are cheap compaired to electronic damage. Even if the battery case is good, and I don't put copper washers under my battery cables so that the cable bolt won't bottom out and pull the battery threaded mounting part away causing a leak like they used to, or maybe my car gets hit and splits or puts a hole in the side of the battery I feel I have done my best, short of relocating the battery to the trunk. I bought some matts here on the Forum a couple years ago, check the Threads. Put one in each car and gave one to a friend. I even put one under each of the 3 batterys in my Lund Pro V .
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The original AC Delco batteries caused a lot of damage and there were regular threads showing horror stories. I did a poll a while ago to see if there were any original batteries still out there. Safe to say they were nearly all gone.

The issue was a badly designed battery post on the early lead acid AC Delco batteries. If the battery connector was over tightened it could crack the case and allow acid to leak. In 2001 AC Delco redesigned the case and switched to AGM type batteries for a couple of years.

In general terms, AGM batteries are leak free but cost more. They don't like being discharged so if you car is not a daily driver you need a battery tender if you run an AGM. The most recent Lead acid batteries are cheaper and will probably do everything you need.

As to the original question, a battery mat is cheap and even if its unlikely ever to be needed its cheap insurance.
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Old Aug 26, 2010 | 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave68
Robert,

The old "sky is falling" cry about leaking batteries is not only irrelevant today, but it is also a good source of needless money-spending on batteries that are no longer necessary.

Leaky batteries were last produced in 2000. All batteries made since then are of much higher build quality and robustness, eliminating the threat of acid leaks onto sensitive electronic components. So no, you do NOT have to buy a $120+ battery for your C5. A $60 Costco Kirkland or $75 Walmart MAXX battery will not only perform as well as most AGM batteries, but will also last up to 8 years without ever leaking.

Save your money and ignore the long-irrelevant panic cries that tend to reverberate from a time long ago.
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The original AC Delco batteries caused a lot of damage and there were regular threads showing horror stories. I did a poll a while ago to see if there were any original batteries still out there. Safe to say they were nearly all gone.

The issue was a badly designed battery post on the early lead acid AC Delco batteries. If the battery connector was over tightened it could crack the case and allow acid to leak. In 2001 AC Delco redesigned the case and switched to AGM type batteries for a couple of years.

In general terms, AGM batteries are leak free but cost more. They don't like being discharged so if you car is not a daily driver you need a battery tender if you run an AGM. The most recent Lead acid batteries are cheaper and will probably do everything you need.

As to the original question, a battery mat is cheap and even if its unlikely ever to be needed its cheap insurance.
Dave and Dee Gee summed it up. One thing I would say though is that although many inexpensive batteries will do the job, the original recommendation for a Reserve Capacity of 90 for a battery for the C5 may be a little dated. Many of the problems that pop up (AH/TC issues, Colum Lock issues...etc) can be traced back to the capacity of the electrical system.

If you are so inclined, you may want to watch the talk in the video below. The guy is a world class vette certified guy and says basically that if you go with a battery with a Reserve capacity of 100> you may avoid some problems. Just food for thought.

http://vettetube.com/view_video.php?...25f49408d959ca
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Originally Posted by Double G
I have a matt under my battery just to be safe, they are cheap compaired to electronic damage. Even if the battery case is good, and I don't put copper washers under my battery cables so that the cable bolt won't bottom out and pull the battery threaded mounting part away causing a leak like they used to, or maybe my car gets hit and splits or puts a hole in the side of the battery I feel I have done my best, short of relocating the battery to the trunk. I bought some matts here on the Forum a couple years ago, check the Threads. Put one in each car and gave one to a friend. I even put one under each of the 3 batterys in my Lund Pro V .
I agree. It is a very cheap safety net. I also installed some of those terminal washers and applied a little Vasoline prior to connecting the cables to help with corrosion. Below is a pic of my negative terminal connector after 6 years on the original 2004 AC Delco battery. I am in the process of intalling a new negative battery cable/connector so appreciate any installation advise on how I remove and swap the original cable from underneath the battery tray!

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My orginal GM Battery leaked but I found it b-4 it did any damage! Cleaned the mess & put in a battery mat b-4 putting in the new Optima Red Top. The mat is cheap insurance.
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I bought the mat but couldn't use it as it raised the battery to high to catch the lip on the battery tray.
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It can't hurt to put a battery mat under the battery - it is good for peace of mind even if the battery never leaks.
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You know, that is what is SO reasurring about this forum. Good common sense help, practical advise and you NEVER feel like a dufus. Another advantage of owning a VETTE! Thank you!
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Originally Posted by Ultimate ride
I bought the mat but couldn't use it as it raised the battery to high to catch the lip on the battery tray.
From what others have posted, the mat needs to be compressed quite a bit before it can be used. Fortunately, the chances of needing a mat are about as great as getting killed in a plane crash - very, very small.
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Originally Posted by Vetteman Jack
It can't hurt to put a battery mat under the battery - it is good for peace of mind even if the battery never leaks.
...plus it provides good arch support and improves the posture of the battery!
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I have an Optima yellow top and I still put a battery mat under it, it was less than ten bucks so I figured why not, just for added piece of mind. Besides, the mat was yellow so I had to have it!
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Originally Posted by RedSoxFan
I have an Optima yellow top and I still put a battery mat under it, it was less than ten bucks so I figured why not, just for added piece of mind. Besides, the mat was yellow so I had to have it!
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