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Old Aug 30, 2010 | 08:08 PM
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I'm looking to get into a C5 Z06 for the same reasons others do, or have done. I guess my question to those who know is how well do they handle? Have owned various American muscle, a Fiat x/19 and would like to know where a Z falls in the handling department.

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Old Aug 30, 2010 | 08:57 PM
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World Class out of the box.

But if it's been lowered, and still has stock shocks, you may find that the car will bounce of the bump stops causing it to pogo in the rear. Also alignment is very important.

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Old Aug 30, 2010 | 09:40 PM
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They handle great bone stock. They kick a lot of butt on the road courses. Put coil-overs on them and you're done! They need no other suspension mods for the most part until you get to the point you're trying to squeeze out 1/1000th of a second.

The stock brakes are not bad. But again, when you start needing to squeeze 1/1000th of a second out of her, it's time to upgrade the pads.
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Old Aug 30, 2010 | 09:46 PM
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Not much can hang in the twisties
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Old Aug 30, 2010 | 09:57 PM
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So what you guys are saying is that set of Bilstein coils (for example) would be a good first mod?
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Old Aug 31, 2010 | 04:47 AM
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Depends... I'd say take the car out on the track to find out. Honestly, in a bone stock Z06 that goes on the road courses, better seats would be the best first mod. The stock seats suck at holding you in place. There's lots of great aftermarket seats. When you feel more confident and in place behind the wheel, then you can actually start pushing the car to its limits. You really won't be able to do it before hand.

My opinion would be for you to buy a helmet before anything. Before you do ANYTHING to the car, take it out to the track and see how it is. You'll know from there. Then you'll probably see as others have that a good set of seats would help a lot long before you'd need any suspension work.
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Old Aug 31, 2010 | 06:59 AM
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I'd suggest tires/balancing as the first handling mod as you will be buying used. After that, brakes and then suspension/alignment.

The C5Z is probably more than you will ever need out of the box on public roads...
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Old Aug 31, 2010 | 08:19 AM
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Lower it about an inch, put in a serious alignment with about 1.5 to 2 degrees of negative camber in the front, about a half a degree less in the back, and get a set of 2004 C5Z shocks, or a set of Bilsetin SPORT shocks and a set of good performance tires. That's all you need.

With that setup, there isn't anything except for maybe an Elise that will keep up with you on the street or on the track.

More that that is just wasting money.
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Old Aug 31, 2010 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Resume18
So what you guys are saying is that set of Bilstein coils (for example) would be a good first mod?
No

This first good mod is to BUY the vette, and the second mod is to get lots of seat time.

Then tires and alignment.

and more seat time
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definitely drive the car for a while first and DON"T be in a hurry to turn off the traction control, learn your limits with it on and then progress from there. Our cars are one of the best handling right out of the box.
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Originally Posted by James92
definitely drive the car for a while first and DON"T be in a hurry to turn off the traction control, learn your limits with it on and then progress from there. Our cars are one of the best handling right out of the box.
I agree; however, I didn't truely know the limits of this car in relatively stock form (all I've got are some c6 z51 sway bars) UNTIL I installed some new seats. If you find that you're focusing more on trying to remain in the seat when you take a turn, then you're not really going to be able to find out what these cars can do. I've stated before, I don't do road courses, this is my WORK car, and I don't think there's any way I will be able to push beyond the limits of the stock suspension on the street.... I will be getting a set of bilstein sports soon though because I hate the jumpiness when you hit a rough patch of road.

... so in summary, learn the car (but you might need seats to do that IF you have a smaller build).
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Originally Posted by AU N EGL
No

This first good mod is to BUY the vette, and the second mod is to get lots of seat time.

Then tires and alignment.

and more seat time
Originally Posted by James92
definitely drive the car for a while first and DON"T be in a hurry to turn off the traction control, learn your limits with it on and then progress from there. Our cars are one of the best handling right out of the box.
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I agree; however, I didn't truely know the limits of this car in relatively stock form (all I've got are some c6 z51 sway bars) UNTIL I installed some new seats. If you find that you're focusing more on trying to remain in the seat when you take a turn, then you're not really going to be able to find out what these cars can do. I've stated before, I don't do road courses, this is my WORK car, and I don't think there's any way I will be able to push beyond the limits of the stock suspension on the street.... I will be getting a set of bilstein sports soon though because I hate the jumpiness when you hit a rough patch of road.

... so in summary, learn the car (but you might need seats to do that IF you have a smaller build).
Exactly!

These three posts sum up what I said. Learn the car before you start modding. If you're small framed like I am, you'll need seats that hug you better.

All you need to start, though, is a helmet. Seat time is more important. Many people think they need to have a road-race super car before they've even taken the car to the track and played with it. That's a big mistake. Once you figure out the car's limits and you start to push those limits, THEN you start to make changes to extend the specific limit you're pushing at that time.
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i can tell you that a bone stock Z06 handles 4000% percent better then your X/19 ever did.

maybe even 5000% better.
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Originally Posted by imavettegirl
i can tell you that a bone stock Z06 handles 4000% percent better then your X/19 ever did.

maybe even 5000% better.
and 10,000% better then 99.999% of all drivers could expect.
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The mathematical figures in posts 13 and 14 are 1,000,000% correct
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You're 15,000,000^100% correct.
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Thanks for all the insight, info and advice everyone, should come in very handy.
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phew

Besides we were running out of Zeros

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Originally Posted by Resume18
So what you guys are saying is that set of Bilstein coils (for example) would be a good first mod?
More than one board sponsor who sells coil overs have said they are NOT a worthwhile investment for a street car. However, if you road race a significant amount and want to be able to adjust your car's handling, then go for it.

I personally don't have them and after seeing how successful some people are with completely stock C5Z's on the road course/autox, I'm not inclined to get them anytime soon.
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keep in mind the 2001 z06 ran sub 8 minute times on the ring bone stock
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